Saggy pants law challenged by critics

clickorlando.com ^ | 8/19/14 | Kristin Giannas

[SoFloFreeper]

......over a month after signing the controversial saggy pants ordinance, Ocala Mayor Kent Guinn said Tuesday he no longer supports it.....

His stance comes after criticism by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. The groups claims to be taking direct action against the city, which can mean a lawsuit, according to Dale Landry, with the NAACP Florida chapter.

"I'm sorry, it's going to be black males that are the subject of this," Landry said.

[dfwgator]

We’ll agree to disagree.

If the majority of citizens of Ocala don’t want people going around with saggy pants, why should they be denied that right?

Especially since those who do wish to have saggy pants, can simply move somewhere else.

Then everybody wins.

[thorvaldr]

“The bottom line is “Are you willing to use men with guns to enforce your law?”

Oh yeah, it’s a stupid law. Just another example of the elite saying that you can’t be trusted to make even the smallest decision about your life.

I just think it’s funny that NAACP says it’s racially motivated. If I said “all black people sag their pants” that would be racist. But NAACP get’s to sue people based on the assertion that it is true.

[JRandomFreeper]

All government, at all levels, is the use of deadly force to enforce their laws.

Localities can set whatever standards they want. I will require that they be honest, and say they are willing to kill to get their way on saggy pants.

/johnny

[JRandomFreeper]

If the majority of citizens of Ocala don’t want people going around with saggy pants, why should they be denied that right?

Majority rules, eh?

The founders warned us of unlimited democracy where the minority was persecuted.

If the majority of citizens of Ocala don't want people driving on Sunday, they can pass a law and enforce it by men with guns.

Smaller government (at all levels) works for me.

I'm ok with pointing and laughing at the bozos with saggy pants, and making it socially unacceptable, but not using men with guns to enforce a law.

/johnny

[dfwgator]

That’s just it...Because it has been tolerated for so long, and that nobody did anything to stop, you cannot make it socially unacceptable anymore, lest you be called a racist.

[dfwgator]

And yes, I am not nearly as libertarian as I used to be, five years ago, I would have been right there with you.

[gdani]

I think saggy pants are stupid.

I think laws preventing such a ridiculous fashion are even worse.

[zeugma]

If you don't pay the ticket, men with guns will take you to jail. If you resist, they will kill you.

That's what laws do. All laws.

/johnny

Very few people understand this.

The key question for each legislooter before voting in support of a law: "Would I be willing to put a bullet in the head of anyone who did _______?"

[JRandomFreeper]

Being called racist doesn't matter. Sticks and stones.

And you can make it socially unacceptable. It just takes testicular fortitude.

Instead of hiding behind men with guns to enforce a law.

/johnny

[JRandomFreeper]

You are ok with the full use of government power to enforce a law about how pants are worn... knowing that the full force includes deadly force.

Ok.

At least you have been honest about it and not pretending that making a law doesn't mean using government force to enforce it.

/johnny

[JRandomFreeper]

Even with Geo. Washington's warning, many so-called conservatives don't want to acknowledge that truth.

/johnny

[skinndogNN]

How did Saggy pants fashion start, prison. The prisoners are given clothes that don’t necessarily fit them, so baggy pants are normal to see in prison.

When you get out, and you want the world to see that you have prison(cred)/street cred, you where baggy pants.

So now it’s become a fashion thing, but I always tell people you’re telling people you’ve been in jail.

And that’s just stupid.

[dfwgator]

I just think thug culture has done tremendous damage to this country. And people should be free to live their lives without having to deal with it.

Laws such as this would go a long way towards that.

[combat_boots]

I read somewhere that the saggy pants were worn by Black, gay inmates to designate that they were available. I guess it caught on.

I don’t know if that’s true. Maybe this is a prison thing in general.

[MrB]

Most liberals won’t admit to that truth.

[dfwgator]

. If you resist, they will kill you.

Then you deserve a Darwin Award.

[JRandomFreeper]

And you are willing to use the full force of government (deadly force) to enforce those laws.

I've got all of that.

You are certainly a freeper of note, and have a reputation, and your opinion deserves respect.

I strongly disagree that killing people over the way they wear thier pants is anything more than re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

This country has real problems, and fashion laws aren't going to solve them.

/johnny

[Mears]

“I just think thug culture has done tremendous damage to this country. “

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‘I just think thug culture has done tremendous damage to this country. ‘

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I agree.

Even the K-Mart back-to school ads are right from the ghetto.

Their Christmas ad was disgusting in another way.

I have never been in a K-Mart in my life——and now I’m glad I never went.

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[JRandomFreeper]

If you resist a tyrant, they will kill you too. I suppose you would say someone would deserve a Darwin Award for resisting a tyrant.

What makes your government better than the government of a tyrant?

Including a tyranny of the majority?

/johnny

[dfwgator]

This country has real problems, and fashion laws aren't going to solve them.

No they won't. And as I said, a Federal ban on saggy pants, certainly is not what I want.

I just believe that people should be able to live in the kind of communities they want to live in.

I would like to live in a place where I don't have to worry about a Gay Pride Parade coming down my street. Plenty of other places that are willing to have them.