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To: Maceman
'll just have to get used to President Elizabeth Warren.

Are you ready to have a radical liberal majority on the Supreme Court for the rest of your lifetime? And, lose your 2nd amendment rights and religious freedom? Be careful what you wish for.

Conservatives need to rally behind a candidate in 2016. But allowing another Marxist to be elected President is incredibly stupid.

It's beyond absurd at this point to say there was no difference between Romney and Obama and the country and the world wouldn't have been in better shape of Romney had been elected.

53 posted on 08/20/2014 10:33:02 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

If they nominate Romney, the Democrat will win, period.


55 posted on 08/20/2014 10:36:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kazan
Are you ready to have a radical liberal majority on the Supreme Court for the rest of your lifetime? And, lose your 2nd amendment rights and religious freedom? Be careful what you wish for. Conservatives need to rally behind a candidate in 2016. But allowing another Marxist to be elected President is incredibly stupid.

I respect you argument. Of course I am afraid of a radical left Supreme Court and the other damage that will result from a Hillary or Warren presidency.

But voting for RINOs will not save us. No more voting for RINOs ever, under any circumstances. Period.

In the past I voted for McCain, and Romney nationally, and for Scott Brown in Massachusetts. But I guess it depends on your belief in how far gone this nation is, and what it will take to restore it, assuming that is even possible at this point.

Personally, I now believe that the only way to save this nation now (assuming such a thing is still possible) is to put conservatives in political offices and enact an agenda based on free markets, limited government and the rule of law. As long as we have a Republican party that actively opposes those ends (and we do, obviously), then I believe our only (slim) hope is drastic action.

As long as the Republican Party establishment believes that it can continue to survive by being Democrat-lite, and that it can continue to maintain power while actively fighting against the core principles of liberty, free markets and Constitutional law, it will never make the necessary change of direction.

Only when the Republican party understands that it must change or die can we hope to turn this country around. Our too-long-serving entrenched establishment politicians can still enjoy their comfy lifestyles, their wealth, power and prestige as members of a minority party. So why should they bother to change direction?

Surely a John Boehner (or an Eric Cantor -- had he not been defeated -- or a Mitch McConnell) would be just as happy to be minority leaders if the election cycle didn't go their way. Yes, they would prefer to be majority leaders, but what good would it be to them if a conservative Republican Party won the majority and then threw them out of their cushy positions and all those perks, replacing them with real conservatives?

Ask yourself -- which do you think Mitch McConnell would prefer -- a majority Republican party in which he was stripped of his position by a conservative majority, or a minority Republican party in which he could remain Senate minority leader because the majority of Republican senators were RINOs?

You may argue that we have no time to wait for the Republicans to realize that their only choice is to change or die as a viable party. But if we don't have time for that, then what makes you think we have time to wait for the RINOs and the GOP-e to pursue a "moderately marginal" course of action designed only to maintain their personal fiefdoms at the expense of a free America operating under the rule of Constitutional law?

The GOP had majority power in the House and Senate, and occupied the White House, 10 years ago. What did all that power do to move the agenda of liberty forward? Answer: nothing.

A GOP that cannot even sell liberty, limited governments and free markets to the American people is worse than useless. It is a party of tyranny enablers, and I will have none of it.

Unbelievably, today we are facing once again the stark choice between liberty and death.

Once again, these are the times that try men's souls. Conservatives need to be waging aggressive war against the totalitarian leftist tyrants on all fronts -- in the branches of government at the federal and state level, in academia, in the media, through public demonstrations, and in the voting booth.

Many argue that we must continued to vote for "the most electable conservative," which means "vote for the RINO if no conservative is running." But I respectfully disagree with that choice. I am done enabling.

If we really are to lose the greatest country in the history of the world, then let's at least be fighting for it when it goes down.

And who knows, maybe -- just maybe, if we show sufficient resolve and conviction -- divine Providence will once again provide the support that gave our founders their unlikely victory in 1776, and grant us once again the "new birth of freedom" that Lincoln called for a century later.

64 posted on 08/20/2014 11:20:11 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Kazan
It's beyond absurd at this point to say there was no difference between Romney and Obama and the country and the world wouldn't have been in better different shape if Romney had been elected.

There. Fixed it for you.

One difference being that a whole lotta people would be marching along under the lash of government tyranny they voted for, and they'd be moaning and wailing and shivering and cowering, "Bbb... bbbut ... I didn't vote for this!"

But they did. And they know it. They hate themselves for it.

Nobody really voted for what's going on right now -- Obama is there because of fraud, just like a whole helluva lot of malignant leftists. Most Americans think Obama stinks. If you don't know or see or believe that, you ain't really payin' attention. But it's true, and why? Most people didn't vote for Obama! They didn't vote for this!

The difference if Romney won would be that most people would think he really stinks, but they voted for him and rewarded the entire concept of the Republican party moving left.

Better than Obama? Nope. Just DIFFERENT kind of very bad bad.

105 posted on 08/21/2014 4:11:45 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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