Posted on 08/19/2014 1:40:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
After a preliminary autopsy revealed that teenager Michael Brown was shot at least six times to the front of his body by a Ferguson, Missouri police officer on Aug. 9, a retired Baltimore City police officer who was involved in six individual use-of-force shootings in his 12-year law enforcement career, told The Christian Post Monday that, in general, six shots is not an overly excessive amount of shots for officers to take when trying to take down an assailant and protect themselves.
Robert Yamin, who was forced to retire on disability from the Baltimore City Police Department after being shot by an assailant with his own weapon, said that police officers must do whatever they can to ensure their safety once they get into an altercation and the assailant doesn't let up.
"It appears without having any real knowledge, just based on theory, that the officer was justified. The amount of bullets fired, you shoot whatever you need to stop the incident," Yamin said. "Until he stops coming at you. You keep shooting"
Yamin added that in split-second incidents, police don't cock their gun but instead fire all the way through meaning the shots will be less accurate because it requires more pressure to fire the weapon. When dealing with high intensity situations, it is in the officer's best interest to fire multiple times because these situations tend to happen so fast.
"The whole incident probably took place in two seconds, maybe three," Yamin speculated. "You can imagine what it would be like to go through four seconds of not knowing whether you are going to live or die, and it is all based on what you do in the next two or three seconds so you are making a decision, just split second."
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From the reports I read, the guy dropped a couple of feet short of the cop - that implies (at least to me) that anything fewer than the shots he took, and he would’ve reached the cop.
Exactly. Looks like this "gentle giant" might have been high and aggressive. The robbery scene shows him as such.
I used to carry a .22 and my husband said if i ever had occasion to fire it, to empty the whole magazine or the perp would take it away from me and turn it on me.
How much larger is a 9mm bullet?
vaudine
there was a side by side with the autopsy picture and a finger position on trigger diagram that explained much.
BTW do these reporters realize that even though Baden did this report FOR FREE! if he is called as an expert for deposition and testimony, he HAS to be paid?
ALWAYS better to be tried by 12 instead of buried by 6.
Don’t forget:
Michael Brown was huge - about 6’ 4” and weighing 290 pounds
At the time of the shooting Officer Wilson was suffering from a severe head/eye injury already inflicted by Brown
The evidence seems to support the assertion that Brown was charging Officer Wilson again - that was like facing a charging bull or bear
Brown had already tried to gain possession of Officer Wilson’s pistol so he had every reason to believe that his life was in danger if Brown got to him again
It looks as if the first shots landed on Brown’s right arm, which probably did not immediately take him down, so the officer kept firing
After the fatal head shots, Brown still landed only about 3 feet from Officer Wilson
If the officer had stopped shooting after 2 or 3 shots Brown would probably have been on top of him again and with plenty of fight left in him
In a defensive situation: Fire until the slide locks back... reload, repeat.
He was a robber.
Yep. Once the shooting starts empty your clip and make sure that perp is down.
Roughly twice the size and three times the weight.
Perhaps not specifically confirmed, but it has beem confirmed that the officer did get his orbital bone broken, and witnesses have indicated that Brown did punch Wilson in the face in the scuffle.
Much, much more likely, IMHO, that the punching from a 290 lb ham fisted thug didit o th officer than recoil from his own weapon, which he trained on.
As a six year veteran, he would have shot those weapons many hundreds of times.
I shoot fairly often, both long guns and hand guns, I saw a friend “scoped” once years ago, but knew enough not to have it happen from my own Father’s instruction when young. Shooting a .44 magnum, I have never had it kivck back and hi me.
It could...but if you hold them orperly and train...it is not likely.
No...perhaps it has not been “confirmed” but based on what we do know, I lay Ollie’s to doughnuts that’s how it appended.
My baby Glock has 10. I practice with 4 slow methodical shots, then 6 quick ones.
back when they still used revolvers it was all the shots they had - without reloading.
... waiting for our favorite newbie to show up and once again argue that Wilson should have just stayed in the car.
The officer had a fractured eye-socket, was stunned and who knows how much he could see and what condition he was in. This may be a reason why all the bullet hits are on the perps right side or the left from the point of view of the officer.
A single 9mm round made Trayvon Martin room temperature.
A 9mm equates to about .354 inches or about a 36 caliber.
A .22 is a good weapon, but shot placement is very important. The best advice I ever got was from a former sheriff. He told me that in a self defense situation, don’t use anything unless it has a “4” in it.
40, 44 or 45 caliber. Our self defense weapon is a Taurus Judge loaded with .410’s 000 buck and 45 long colts.
The sheriff’s deputies in my county use .40S&W
The best reconstruction of the whole scenario that I can come up with is as follows:
1) Brown, all 6’4” and 292 pounds of him and high on pot, robbed a liquor store of cigars, physically assaulting (though not TOO badly) the much smaller clerk.
2) Brown left the liquor store and about 10 minutes later was confronted in the street by Officer Wilson for ... wait for it ... walking in the street.
3) Brown evidently did SOMETHING to the officer in the car in the way of a confrontation at this point. I don’t know if he went for his gun, popped him in the face, neither or both. But SOMETHING happened. I strongly suspect that the physical altercation involved Wilson being struck - hard - in the face, fracturing the orbit of his left eye.
4) Brown started walking away, and Wilson told him to stop. Wilson had his weapon drawn. Brown apparently stopped, turned around and proceeded to rush Wilson.
5) Wilson shot Brown 6 times, 4 in the arm, 1 in the neck area and 1 in the head (at the top, which is a bit strange at first, but not if Brown had started to double over in pain from the prior shots that hit him, or had stumbled).
My conclusion is that Brown, a very large and imposing guy, who was high and had just robbed a store and committed assault (well, actually, battery) in the process, didn’t want to be hauled in to face justice. That an 18-year-old male who was also probably not terribly well educated misjudged the situation is plain. As for Officer Wilson, he got busted up buy a huge guy, who a few seconds later turned on him and rushed him. What would ANYONE do? You’ve been fairly seriously injured, your vision is probably somewhat impaired and you may be feeling like you’re about to pass out, and all you have to defend yourself with in the next 2-3 seconds against a pissed-off guy the size of an NFL linebacker WHO ALREADY ASSAULTED A UNIFORMED POLICE OFFICER is a 9mm pop-gun? I’d have probably emptied the gun into him and reloaded ASAP. It is a tribute to Wilson’s training and his presence of mind that Brown was shot 6 times and not more.
This seems pretty open and shut to me - but, of course, that matters not one whit to the rabble-rousers in Fergusen and DC. If Wilson isn’t charged, look for riots AT LEAST in St. Louis, and probably in a few dozen cities. If he is charged and gets a not guilty verdict in a few months or a year, look for the same results. Meanwhile, I’d advise anyone living or working anywhere near a similar inner city neighborhood to carry, and to practice A LOT with their firearm.
What a waste of a life! No, Brown was almost certainly never going to be a Nobel Prize winner or similar contributor to the general well-being of humanity, but still he was a person who could have been decent and raised a decent family. Had he actually been a gentle giant, he could’ve very positively affected a lot of lives. Instead he is dead and gone, and his only legacy is violence committed in his name and more hatred fostered by his idiocy.
All of Al Sharpton’s security guards should limit themselves to two bullets.
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