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To: old3030
So you say. I am against government intrusion in the free market and in individual liberties as much as it possible. That’s why the Constitution is all about telling the government what it cannot do. In that sense, the Founders were libertarians and many of them were devout Christians. If you embrace a big government, big brother kind of imposed adherence to biblical standards as a social conservative then, yes, you and I will have to disagree and even be at odds.

However, if you are willing to reduce the role of the FEDERAL government to Constitutional boundaries, and you want to make laws at the local level to restrict vice and encourage virtue in a given community, I have no problem with that. And it is none of the federal government’s business.

I am a Christian libertarian. I am not unicorn.

That's a well reasoned response, which of course means ansel will probably reject it. He doesn't want to get along. He wants to fight. I would say that on the issue of life, true libertarianism should include being pro life under the "right to life" doctrine, given that biology teaches us that abortion is the taking of a life. Under gay marriage, I think the libertarian approach intellectually should be that this is either a state issue, or that gays can do whatever, but they cannot change the meaning of the marriage contract for the citizens who are already in such a contract. Maybe on that you and I disagree.

but on the whole, we agree much more than we disagree (a tough concept for some around here to grasp). I would not say I am a libertarian, but a Christian conservative with a keen eye towards issues of limited government and maximum freedom.

85 posted on 08/18/2014 8:06:26 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I agree about being pro-life, and marriage has long been a state issue. For example, some states allow cousins to marry, some don’t. The federal government should accept the state definition just as it should for voting requirements.

Abortion is always wrong, in my opinion, but Roe v. Wade was a bad decision because it overstepped the limitations of the Constitution and took away the right of the local community/state to decide how to handle abortion.

If Roe v. Wade were overturned tomorrow, as I pray that it will be some day, abortion would not automatically become illegal across the nation. New York, California, Oregon, Washington, and Illinois and other states with death-worshiping politicians in control would legalize it. Then it would be up to the citizens of those states to decide if they were for the slaughter of innocents.


92 posted on 08/18/2014 8:23:21 AM PDT by old3030 (I lost some time once. It's always in the last place you look.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Personal attacks and you didn’t even ping me, your temper and nasty disposition is something to behold.

When you are on a conservative site, you should not react with such overwhelming hostility and nasty personal attacks at conservative views and challenges to libertarianism and your attempts to massage us to the left.


99 posted on 08/18/2014 8:55:41 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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