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The “militarization” of police was not only inevitable, but necessary
Hot Air ^ | August 16, 2014 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 08/16/2014 4:38:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: GeronL

Good point! Of course, having a corrupt police force is really bad for society.


101 posted on 08/16/2014 6:10:38 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: First_Salute

I live in Texas and I pity the fool that breaks into my home.


102 posted on 08/16/2014 6:10:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Flycatcher
They can call 911, like they tell 'civilians' to.

Seriously, they have radios. They can call for a special squad of armed LEs. They do it in Britain all the time.

/johnny

103 posted on 08/16/2014 6:10:57 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I find your comments specious and unserious.


104 posted on 08/16/2014 6:11:23 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The writer points to extreme cases when it might be nice to be up-armored. However, the practical application of this militarization is in everyday activities. When the government has a hammer, everything they see seems to be a nail.


105 posted on 08/16/2014 6:12:03 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: oh8eleven
I'm part of that overwhelming majority and no matter where I go - local gatherings like parks/beach/city, or large cities like NY, DC, Tampa, etc., I never feel intimidated - I feel safe.

Likewise, and I doubt many Freepers ever need a firearm pointed at them to make them follow the law.

106 posted on 08/16/2014 6:13:38 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: ifinnegan
It’s interesting because arguing against the “militarization of police” ultimately is saying that more power has to go to State and Federal government than local.

Not necessarily — one could simply believe as Adama of Battlestar Galactica: There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.

107 posted on 08/16/2014 6:13:49 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Zhang Fei

:’)


108 posted on 08/16/2014 6:13:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ifinnegan
I'm serious. Serious enough to take the time, because of this thread, to write my State and Federal elected officials, reminding them of my position that police at all levels need to be de-militarized, and their budgets reduced significantly.

It was a good thread, in that it got me to express my opinion to the officials that I elect.

/johnny

109 posted on 08/16/2014 6:15:03 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He uses some false analogies. For example, because the LAPD need to turn out in force because of a major riot in south-central LA, does that mean that police in thousands of cities and towns in the US need military arms in case there is a major riot in Podunk?

Do police in a small town need an armored vehicle, explosives and fully automatic weapons? Many years ago, one well known Sheriff tried to justify having a .30 caliber, belt-fed Browning machine gun on the grounds that if someone hijacked a commercial aircraft near his airport, he wanted the means to *shoot it down*. Uh, no. Not your job.

And beyond the weapons and equipment, the reason police departments all over the US created SWAT teams was because of a small number of police assassinations by radical leftists in the 1970s. Encouraged by the federal government, police changed their training to assume, for example, that *everyone* could be a potential cop-assassinating terrorist. Which is utter hooey.

It is as irrational as the TSA searching an elderly Irish grandmother in a wheelchair because she *might* be a terrorist, and we *certainly* don’t want to *profile* young Saudi Arabian Arabic Muslim men with beards, carrying Korans, who try to smuggle cigarette lighters on board even though they don’t smoke.


110 posted on 08/16/2014 6:15:12 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: ifinnegan
Big difference between a police force with riot gear and the para-military forces of Federal Departments which shouldn’t even have a law enforcement branch.

You are right to consider the potential danger the federal government posed to the citizens. The sheriff departments across the land are a safety valve to political police departments (a reason Maryland is trying to eliminate them). Sheriffs, voted in by the people, are not beholding to immediate political whim.

111 posted on 08/16/2014 6:18:19 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: ifinnegan

Prior to around 1920 any British subject could wank into a hardware store & buy the equivalent of a military rifle any pistol or shotgun . The trouble started with the Communist Revolution & the whacking of the Czar & his family.


112 posted on 08/16/2014 6:18:37 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: JRandomFreeper
They can call 911, like they tell 'civilians' to. Seriously, they have radios. They can call for a special squad of armed LEs. They do it in Britain all the time.

Congratulations!

You've just posted the most idiotic idealistic drivel I've ever read on FR.

Word to the wise: Idealism gets people killed.

Inadvertently, of course, but people still get killed nonetheless.

Are you seriously this detached from reality?

113 posted on 08/16/2014 6:19:25 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess, according to some FReepers, police should only be equipped with flint-lock muzzle loaders; anything more is “militarization.”


114 posted on 08/16/2014 6:20:21 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Nebr FAL owner
The '20s and the progressives, worldwide.

They certainly turned everything into a crap sammich.

/johnny

115 posted on 08/16/2014 6:21:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper; OneWingedShark

The term militarization of police is at most an analogy.

You seem to be taking it literally. This is why I said I found your comments specious or not serious.

“Serious enough to take the time, because of this thread, to write my State and Federal elected officials, reminding them of my position that police at all levels need to be de-militarized, and their budgets reduced significantly.”

Police are local. It is telling that you want the Federal government to be able to control what a local community decides to do with their own money.

I agree that Federal grants to local police can be a type of honey-trap and that can be addressed Federally and locally.


116 posted on 08/16/2014 6:27:43 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Flycatcher
People get killed in your world, too.

Most of the police work done by my local PD doesn't require firearms, and the locals know it.

They could easily call in some special squad if required.

On the other hand, I have loaned a local cop a towel so he could help animal control pick up a big, wet dog and put it into the animal control truck without trashing his fresh, start-of-shift uniform.

The local didn't shoot the dog. He didn't need his gun at all. He needed a towel or a smock to protect his dry-cleaning.

/johnny

117 posted on 08/16/2014 6:28:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Nebr FAL owner

Interesting.


118 posted on 08/16/2014 6:29:38 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Flycatcher

State & local funding of local police is more than sufficient to arm local & state police forces with sidearms/shotguns & rifles.


119 posted on 08/16/2014 6:30:10 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: fwdude
I don't want most LE to even have a department issued 'Brown Bess' musket. They don't need it for their jobs.

What they do on their own time, with their own money is up to them, since they are citizens, too.

/johnny

120 posted on 08/16/2014 6:30:43 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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