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I guess there were some outside witnesses to Putin's forces getting smacked. I'm sure this will hurt the feelings of Putin's fans, and will complicate his ability to climb down from his bullying of his neighbors.
1 posted on 08/16/2014 4:52:59 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

LOL! It’s more complicated than Putin. There are only a huge population of Ukrainians that want Russia instead of Ukraine / EU.


2 posted on 08/16/2014 4:55:52 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: elhombrelibre
From your own article:

The Kremlin denied Friday that there had been a border incursion, and a Russian defense ministry spokesman said that no Russian vehicles had been destroyed because none had been inside Ukraine. Poroshenko offered no proof to support his claim.

Somebody's lying.

3 posted on 08/16/2014 4:57:33 AM PDT by McGruff (You can lead a human to knowledge but you can't make him think)
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8 posted on 08/16/2014 5:06:26 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: elhombrelibre
Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said Friday that Ukrainian forces had attacked and destroyed part of a column of Russian military vehicles on Ukrainian territory, a step that, if confirmed, would represent a significant escalation of hostilities between Ukraine and Russia.

There are people who would interpret a column of military vehicles entering a sovereign country's territory against the will of the legitimate government to be an act of war. There are people who would interpret destroying that column of vehicles as an act of war. There are people who would conclude that when hostile countries engage in successive acts of war against each other, a de facto state of war exists between the two. Or they could just understate the situation and describe it as a significant escalation.

12 posted on 08/16/2014 5:14:22 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Quote of the Morning: 8/16/14

Former President of Georgia,Mikheil Saakashvili, when asked about Vladimir Putin, said, “He likes to be feared. For example: the last time I met with him, he said, ‘Your western friends promise you nice things, but seldom deliver. I promise you bad things, and I deliver.’”


15 posted on 08/16/2014 5:28:33 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: elhombrelibre

Reports are that they were nailed by OTR-21 Tochka (SS-21 Scarab) systems:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTR-21_Tochka

They shoot surface to surface many dozens of miles away with a half ton warhead with a CEP of a couple hundred feet. A very good system for taking out an armored column outside of a populated area... if you know exactly where it is going to be. But given that Ukraine’s intel capability is limited (not to be downplayed, but still limited), I wonder if we’re seeing the results of real-time data sharing with major western powers?


16 posted on 08/16/2014 5:30:22 AM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: elhombrelibre

Ukes nuke Ruskie pukes, again! LOL!


17 posted on 08/16/2014 5:30:34 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: elhombrelibre

Any prisoners to show?


19 posted on 08/16/2014 5:33:04 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Your feelings don't trump my free speech!)
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To: elhombrelibre

If it happened, the wreckage would be on the front page of the New York Times next to pictures of a smiling Obama and a dejected Putin. Doubt it happened.


21 posted on 08/16/2014 5:44:41 AM PDT by allendale
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To: elhombrelibre

Not sure what happened but I’m leaning towards believing Putin. If in fact Ukraine did demolish a column of Russian vehicles that would be advertised by Putin so he could have a pretext to invade and grab more land in the name of defense of Russia.


28 posted on 08/16/2014 6:23:44 AM PDT by kenf3
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The White House says it cannot confirm reports that Ukrainian troops destroyed a Russian military convoy that had allegedly crossed into eastern Ukraine.

Spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said late Friday officials are working to gather information on the situation. She said the U.S. remains concerned about repeated Russian and Russian-supported incursions into Ukraine.

Earlier Friday, Ukraine’s president said government troops destroyed a column of military vehicles that crossed into eastern Ukraine from Russia as a convoy of Russian trucks purportedly carrying humanitarian aid remained stalled near the border awaiting inspection.

The incident, which NATO confirmed and said involved Russian weaponry, was vehemently denied by Russia’s Defense Ministry, which told news agencies the report was “some kind of fantasy.”

http://www.voanews.com/content/ukraine-russia-military-convoy/2414222.html

Somebody is lying.


34 posted on 08/16/2014 6:36:48 AM PDT by McGruff (You can lead a human to knowledge but you can't make him think)
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From yesterday, posted on Yesterday’s thread:

CNN’s Ram Ramgogal
US says it can’t confirm Ukrainian claims of disabling vehicles in a Russian military convoy inside Ukrainehttps://twitter.com/RamCNN/status/500412757259591682


48 posted on 08/16/2014 7:21:18 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: elhombrelibre

Putey has misjudged the level of hatred the Ukranians have for Mother Russia. They are not going to go gently into the new empire. My brother in law has an adopted teen from Urkraine and he has talked about how much they hate the Russians.


63 posted on 08/16/2014 7:41:43 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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How ironic is this? Mexico protests Texas National Guard troops on US border. Maybe we ought to concerned with our border first.
84 posted on 08/16/2014 8:56:07 AM PDT by McGruff (You can lead a human to knowledge but you can't make him think)
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To: elhombrelibre
>>>>>>>>>>Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said Friday that Ukrainian forces had attacked and destroyed part of a column of Russian military vehicles on Ukrainian territory, a step that, if confirmed, would represent a significant escalation of hostilities between Ukraine and Russia.<<<<<

Both Russia and Ukraine use the same Soviet-era vehicles.

The destroyed column of military belonged to Kiev forces.

Poroshenko is attempting lame spin. The problem is that he always has to retract his own claims.

Like Hitler in 1945, Porosenko raised conscription age limit to over 60 years of age for men. Next step will be to conscript grannies over 70.

215 posted on 08/18/2014 11:23:30 AM PDT by DTA
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