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To: kanawa
But Jackson told the Post-Dispatch that the officer, Darren Wilson, saw cigars in Brown’s hand and realized he might be the robber.

So my question to the Chief is -- which was it -- did he know or not know -- make up your mind.

The description went out 3 minutes before he encountered the two in the street and 1 minute later Brown was dead in the street.

So when did he see the cigars and how did he see them in those big hands and where were they during the fight???

67 posted on 08/16/2014 8:34:47 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

I think the answer is he suspected, and attempted to investigate...
He was aware of the robbery call.
He saw someone who might be involved.
And in the course of trying to investigate somehow the SHTF.


69 posted on 08/16/2014 8:40:38 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: Uncle Chip

10 minutes from first description to the encounter.
Not 3.
4 mins prior to encounter the summary of broadcast description details included...
White shirt, red cards that, yellow socks, and I believe lastly, khaki shorts ... that was the detail sent at time 57.
The description was not broadcast all at once... it went out in bits and pieces as the info was gathered.


71 posted on 08/16/2014 8:43:53 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: Uncle Chip

The news I heard was clear that the officer was already at the scene and was going to pull away, when the description of Brown and Johnson doing the robbery came in, and he looked in rear view mirror and realized that was the robbers, so he started backing up.

That’s when Brown slammed his door shut on the officer... when the officer tried to get out and arrest him....that was a felony resisting arrest, and they all three struggled over the officer’s gun as it was pointed at the officer and he pushed it away and it went off, then Brown ran, but turned around to charge the officer when he said ‘freeze’.

The shots were fired when Brown started back toward the officer. One shot was fired during the struggle over the gun and the rest after Brown started back toward the officer ignoring ‘Freeze’...... all of this the account by Officer Wilson’s friend in MO on the radio show, as told to him by Wilson.

Is that right scenario, I would bet on it, but there are others who want to back up Brown...Johnson is a liar and a thief, so I do not find him credible...maybe some of it.

So there are several accounts going around, and this one seems logical to me as to why the officer fires several times, he had already been in a struggle with Brown and almost lost his gun....if Brown had continued running, I doubt he would have been shot, and back up would have been called. However Brown turned around to run toward the officer putting the officer in danger, that is grounds for the shooting, because he had already been in a struggle with the robbers....all of it happened within minutes.

Was Brown surrendering when the officer said ‘Freeze’? NO He kept coming toward the officer....’Hands up’?....maybe, but I doubt it. How would a lone officer react when 292 lbs of attacking 6’4” flesh is charging him, after a struggle with both of the robbers already and he managed to keep his gun. I would have shot him...if that is correct scenario, it would be justifiable homicide.


73 posted on 08/16/2014 8:48:22 AM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...Time to honor it....be a Patriot.)
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To: Uncle Chip
"So my question to the Chief is -- which was it -- did he know or not know -- make up your mind."

That Chief looks a little befuddled whenever he's in front of the mic.

In the end whether the Cop knew or not is at best a small contributing factor, IMHO. Brown KNEW, and as the surveillance tapes have shown, was big and stupid enough to get physical without a second thought.

Which leaves us at the primary issue of did the Cop overreact? Eyewitness accounts claim enough shots were fired to make it sound like he emptied a clip.

77 posted on 08/16/2014 8:58:17 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Uncle Chip

The Chief was not the one interviewing Wilson.
“I don’t know what came out in his interview.”

~when did he see the cigars?~

According to the purported family friend...
After he had asked them to move off the street and was met with belligerence,
he pulled to the side of the road, perhaps to call back up,
when he saw something in their hands that looked like
it could be what was stolen during the robbery.

~ how did he see them in those big hands~

How did you, if you’ve watched the convenience store video,
miss seeing the “numerous packs of Swisher Sweets” in Brown’s hand?

~where were they during the fight???~

I don’t know, my guess would be, on the ground
and while that information will likely become available in time,
frankly, it is rather irrelevant.


81 posted on 08/16/2014 9:08:04 AM PDT by kanawa
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