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To: jmacusa

If someone - like AA - has convinced you that you are a so weak and that a drug or alcohol will always be stronger than you, then nothing anyone else tells you will likely change your view of it.

The mental key to all addictions is that an addiction is seen as always looming massively large in the mind, to the addict, convincing the addict it is always stronger than they are, until, and unless, the person realizes THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE it so massively large in their mind and they can unmake it if they want to, if they only just use their will to do so.

When does an addict really quit? When they realize they are the ones in control and they can chose to change, for once and for good.

It is an AA myth that no one ever stops being an alcoholic, for good, without an AA to “help them”. Millions do.


29 posted on 08/16/2014 9:20:52 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli; jmacusa; Shimmer1
What a racket...It is an AA myth that no one ever stops being an alcoholic, for good, without an AA to “help them”. Millions do.

Yes, yes, of course. That is why said millions across the world say a prayer of thanks for the famous Wuli Method.

lol

30 posted on 08/16/2014 9:46:40 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Wuli

AA never says we stop being alcoholic. There is a difference between a sober alcoholic and and active one. And I’m not weak you twit and AA doesn’t peddle that notion. What we are is powerless over alcohol. Now piss off, I’m done talking to you you wanker.


31 posted on 08/16/2014 2:01:45 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: Wuli
One of the biggest, most fundamental misunderstandings about alcoholism is that the alcoholic has a weak will. Alcoholics have powerful wills; the problem is that the natural inclination of an alcoholic's will is to get drunk, and there is very little that will stop them from doing so. It's why incarcerated alcoholics ferment fruit in their prison toilets. It's why native Americans will mix kool aid with Lysol. It's why Russian soldiers would put shoe polish on a slice of bread and set it out in the sun or drink de-icing fluid out of their aircraft.

In my experience, as a recovering alcoholic, sobriety is achieved only when one becomes fully willing to subordinate personal will to God's will, and thank God there is a program that allows me to share the experience, strength and hope of other alcoholics in having done so.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion. I know what has been successful in my life, and has indeed, saved my life.

36 posted on 08/17/2014 7:22:56 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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