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To: UCANSEE2; BuckeyeTexan; LevinFan

There will be clear evidence at the scene, complete with forensics, GSR, blood, spent casing and on and on...This will be pretty difficult to twist unless the evidence had somehow been manipulated...

Based on the physical evidence alone and conducting a fair investigation independent of the local PD, it should be pretty easy to figure out what occurred and determine if inconsistent statements were made etc...


663 posted on 08/11/2014 2:22:10 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

“There will be clear evidence at the scene, complete with forensics, GSR, blood, spent casing and on and on...This will be pretty difficult to twist unless the evidence had somehow been manipulated...

Based on the physical evidence alone and conducting a fair investigation independent of the local PD, it should be pretty easy to figure out what occurred and determine if inconsistent statements were made etc...”

First, the claim was that there was a struggle over the gun. It is going to be hard to prove such a claim is false. That is the reason cops invented the “He reached for his waist band” excuses. It is very hard to disprove. They know the words to say, and teach each other what to say. It isn’t a myth that cops taught each other long ago to have a throw down weapon, just in case.

Second, you are assuming that anyone investigating is doing a serious investigation, looking for inconsistencies in a story and physical evidence. I’ve had numerous talks with a cop I know at another site. One thing is clear, he is never critical of a cop’s version of events. Not nearly as critical as he would be with you or I.
LE is not interested in honest investigations of cops, least they one day find themselves under investigation. Cops have every incentive to whitewash these events. That makes for a poor investigator.

These investigations need replaced with Citizen based investigative agencies, with out stacking the board with retired cops and family members of cops. It needs to be a real, critical investigation. And with the power to charge. A couple of review boards had members resign, because their findings were just ignored. Others, stacked with ex-cops, defeating the purpose of such a board.

But trusting cops, even from another department, to investigate such events is dubious at best. And Internal Investigation? An oxymoron.

We’ve seen far too many investigations producing ridiculous conclusions. As I’ve said, the cops in the Dorner hunt were not punished for their actions, and the cop who shot a kid holding a wii walked. Nor are those two isolated.


664 posted on 08/11/2014 2:50:55 PM PDT by LevinFan
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