Posted on 08/08/2014 11:12:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
As one redeemed by the Lord Jesus, I do.
I think there will be sections of the United States that attempt to secede. I doubt it will happen easily, because the areas that would like to leave have stuff like oil and agriculture and low debt that the rest covet.
Alaska might have a shot, geographically remote, maybe become a Russian protectorate.
Note: From Wikipedia:
June 10, 2008, Congressman Dennis Kucinich, along with co-sponsor Robert Wexler, introduced 35 articles of impeachment against Bush to the U.S. House of Representatives. The House voted 251* to 166 to refer the impeachment resolution to the Judiciary Committee on June 11, where no further action was taken on it.
*24 Republicans voted y
Doc Brown.
I think it's reasonable to point out that this is by no means a universal series.
It's (sort of) what happened in Greece and Rome, and in some of the Italian city-states and later in western Europe and its offshoots.
But AFAIK this path was never traveled in the ancient, Muslim, Chinese, Japanese or Indian (dot OR feather) worlds.
This percentage is, of course, split between those who think we're moving left much too fast, and those who think we aren't moving left fast enough.
Clearly Future-America will not own its then Present, when that time arrives, since it will have been spent many times over. With a $17 T debt, on its way to... well, until things break, the future cannot by definition own its own time, as it will be indebted to paying off its past and our present.
Secession is not practical. I doubt there is a state in the country where a minimum of 1/3 of the population wouldn’t be “on the other side.”
Compare that to the CSA, which had 90%+ support in its core areas.
America’s divisions, this time around, just aren’t regional, they’re ideological. Which makes for a MUCH nastier civil war.
Ask the Spanish.
Future?
It mattereth not.
Who CONTROLS the past has an AWFUL lot to do with it though!
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul.
Oh??
Looks pretty regional to me!
People in the cities should get out more...
...to the areas that grow your FOOD for you!
Does it matter? King 0bama will just take it away and give it to an illegal immigrant.
Certainly no one with a $14T debt and another who-knows how many trillions of unfunded liabilities.
Whoever owns the gold makes the rules
He who makes the rules owns the future
China and Russia
Future generations, not us, own the future.
All we can do is leave a good example and try to warn them.
And teach history.
I believe the remark...”We should have picked our own cotton” has the ring of truth........
Nor is this the exceptional crisis of a particular presidency. Buchanan is right.
For a few generations since 1913, congress tried to be all things to all people. In recent decades it gave up constitutionalism entirely and sought to satisfy the Left, while it attempted to placate, yet simultaneously destroy the middle class. In the process it ended up p!ssing off almost everyone outside of the DC metro area.
Until Charles De Montesquieu, republican theory held that representative or direct democracies could only exist in tiny geographical territories like the ancient Greek city-states. Over large areas, some form of despotic rule was necessary to check disparate peoples of various customs and traditions.
The beauty of Montesquieu's theory was that a republic composed of republics could dash the age old lesson of despotism across continents. He was right, and the American system of republics within a larger republic spread and nurtured untold wealth, prosperity and freedom.
Unfortunately, the American republic of republics was dashed with the 17th Amendment. It took a hundred years, but we are facing what the Framers knew, that centralized, undivided power meant the certainty of undivided tyranny.
Here are the states that voted for Romney at over 60%, therefore can be reasonably assumed to be most likely to support secession.
Utah - 73%
Wyoming - 69%
Oklahoma - 67%
Idaho - 65%
West Virginia - 62%
Alabama - 61%
Arkansas - 61%
Kentucky - 61%
As you can see, only three managed to get over 2/3 against Obama, as I said in my earlier post.
By contrast, in the 1860 elections NINE states registered not one popular vote for Lincoln.
Now that’s a regional division.
I am ignoring here the fact that a LARGE percentage of 2012 Romney voters would not support secession.
Romney as a metric? That’s pretty funny!
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