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Who Owns the Future?
Townhall.com ^ | August 8, 2014 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 08/08/2014 11:12:49 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 08/08/2014 11:12:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

As one redeemed by the Lord Jesus, I do.


2 posted on 08/08/2014 11:14:40 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Kaslin

I think there will be sections of the United States that attempt to secede. I doubt it will happen easily, because the areas that would like to leave have stuff like oil and agriculture and low debt that the rest covet.

Alaska might have a shot, geographically remote, maybe become a Russian protectorate.


3 posted on 08/08/2014 11:17:37 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Kaslin

Note: From Wikipedia:
June 10, 2008, Congressman Dennis Kucinich, along with co-sponsor Robert Wexler, introduced 35 articles of impeachment against Bush to the U.S. House of Representatives. The House voted 251* to 166 to refer the impeachment resolution to the Judiciary Committee on June 11, where no further action was taken on it.

*24 Republicans voted y


4 posted on 08/08/2014 11:19:29 AM PDT by griswold3 (I was born here in America. I will die here in a third world country. Obama succeeded.)
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To: Kaslin

Doc Brown.


5 posted on 08/08/2014 11:21:49 AM PDT by YourAdHere (Barack is the wife.)
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To: Kaslin
From the tribal leader comes the monarch, whose reign gives way to an aristocracy that produces a middle class that creates a republic, the degenerative form of which is ... pure democracy

I think it's reasonable to point out that this is by no means a universal series.

It's (sort of) what happened in Greece and Rome, and in some of the Italian city-states and later in western Europe and its offshoots.

But AFAIK this path was never traveled in the ancient, Muslim, Chinese, Japanese or Indian (dot OR feather) worlds.

6 posted on 08/08/2014 11:27:02 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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Seventy-one percent believe America is headed in the wrong direction.

This percentage is, of course, split between those who think we're moving left much too fast, and those who think we aren't moving left fast enough.

7 posted on 08/08/2014 11:28:21 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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Clearly Future-America will not own its then Present, when that time arrives, since it will have been spent many times over. With a $17 T debt, on its way to... well, until things break, the future cannot by definition own its own time, as it will be indebted to paying off its past and our present.


8 posted on 08/08/2014 11:28:35 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: nascarnation

Secession is not practical. I doubt there is a state in the country where a minimum of 1/3 of the population wouldn’t be “on the other side.”

Compare that to the CSA, which had 90%+ support in its core areas.

America’s divisions, this time around, just aren’t regional, they’re ideological. Which makes for a MUCH nastier civil war.

Ask the Spanish.


9 posted on 08/08/2014 11:31:35 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Kaslin

Future?

It mattereth not.

Who CONTROLS the past has an AWFUL lot to do with it though!


10 posted on 08/08/2014 11:34:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul.


11 posted on 08/08/2014 11:36:15 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Sherman Logan
America’s divisions, this time around, just aren’t regional, they’re ideological.

Oh??

Looks pretty regional to me!



12 posted on 08/08/2014 11:36:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sherman Logan

People in the cities should get out more...

...to the areas that grow your FOOD for you!


13 posted on 08/08/2014 11:37:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin
Who Owns the Future?

Does it matter? King 0bama will just take it away and give it to an illegal immigrant.

14 posted on 08/08/2014 11:38:21 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (I want a Speaker who'll stick that pen and phone where no one but Reggie Love can find it!)
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To: Kaslin

Certainly no one with a $14T debt and another who-knows how many trillions of unfunded liabilities.

Whoever owns the gold makes the rules

He who makes the rules owns the future

China and Russia


15 posted on 08/08/2014 11:39:09 AM PDT by The Bat Ladys Husband (Restore the Texas Republic)
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Future generations, not us, own the future.
All we can do is leave a good example and try to warn them.
And teach history.


16 posted on 08/08/2014 11:53:30 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Kaslin

I believe the remark...”We should have picked our own cotton” has the ring of truth........


17 posted on 08/08/2014 11:56:30 AM PDT by yoe (Quqon)
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To: Kaslin
An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll finds that only 14 percent of the people approve of Congress . . .

Nor is this the exceptional crisis of a particular presidency. Buchanan is right.

For a few generations since 1913, congress tried to be all things to all people. In recent decades it gave up constitutionalism entirely and sought to satisfy the Left, while it attempted to placate, yet simultaneously destroy the middle class. In the process it ended up p!ssing off almost everyone outside of the DC metro area.

Until Charles De Montesquieu, republican theory held that representative or direct democracies could only exist in tiny geographical territories like the ancient Greek city-states. Over large areas, some form of despotic rule was necessary to check disparate peoples of various customs and traditions.

The beauty of Montesquieu's theory was that a republic composed of republics could dash the age old lesson of despotism across continents. He was right, and the American system of republics within a larger republic spread and nurtured untold wealth, prosperity and freedom.

Unfortunately, the American republic of republics was dashed with the 17th Amendment. It took a hundred years, but we are facing what the Framers knew, that centralized, undivided power meant the certainty of undivided tyranny.

18 posted on 08/08/2014 11:59:11 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Elsie

Here are the states that voted for Romney at over 60%, therefore can be reasonably assumed to be most likely to support secession.

Utah - 73%
Wyoming - 69%
Oklahoma - 67%
Idaho - 65%
West Virginia - 62%
Alabama - 61%
Arkansas - 61%
Kentucky - 61%

As you can see, only three managed to get over 2/3 against Obama, as I said in my earlier post.

By contrast, in the 1860 elections NINE states registered not one popular vote for Lincoln.

Now that’s a regional division.

I am ignoring here the fact that a LARGE percentage of 2012 Romney voters would not support secession.


19 posted on 08/08/2014 12:07:24 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Romney as a metric? That’s pretty funny!


20 posted on 08/08/2014 12:28:43 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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