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Women Ordered to Stop Praying Inside Mall (Dublin, GA, CHRISTIANS)
Town Hall ^ | 8/5/2014 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 08/06/2014 4:56:11 AM PDT by GailA

A few weeks ago the Dublin Girls had gathered inside the local mall for an evening power walk. They formed a small circle and as they had done many times before, they bowed their heads to petition the Almighty.

But before one of the runners could say, “Lord Jesus,” she was interrupted by a mall cop barreling down a corridor.

“The security guard came running toward us and said, ‘You are not allowed to pray at the mall. That’s against the policy,’” Tammy told me.

The ladies were aghast.

“I told him we’ve been praying since last November and no one said anything about it,” she said.

“We’ve never had any problems.”

The security guard told her they’d had a problem with a previous religious group trying to proselytize shoppers. But Tammy said they weren’t trying to convert anybody – they were just trying to pray. And it’s not like they were having a “Holy Ghost Shoutin’ Prayer.”

“You can’t hear us unless you are in the circle,” she said.

The ladies thought the security guard was simply mistaken so they asked him to call the mall manager. It turns out – the security guard was not mistaken.

“The mall manager verified that prayer is not allowed at the mall because this is private property,” she said.

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: christians; corporateliberalism; culturewar; discrimination; malls; prayer; waronchristianity
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To: GailA

She should’ve said she was an atheist praying for the destruction of Christians!


41 posted on 08/06/2014 7:53:07 AM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, was not there!)
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To: tips up

satan doesn’t have a problem with people praying to allah.


42 posted on 08/06/2014 8:47:01 AM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Arm_Bears
Maybe I’m overly sensitive, or maybe that’s the state of “journalism” these days.

"Dublin" is probably just too hard for "journalists" to spell.

43 posted on 08/06/2014 8:51:56 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to Repeal and Replace the Republican Party)
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To: sickoflibs; Gene Eric; Yashcheritsiy; GailA; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; ..
I'm sorry, I know you won't believe it, but . . .

There is no such thing as, "no one" or "everyone" when it comes to restricting a behavior. Behaviors have been upheld as a form of free speech protected under the First Amendment and furthermore, some behaviors are classified as political speech that cannot be restricted when a member of a protected class engages in them but not when someone not a member of a protected class engages in them.

"Your" property is far less "yours" than you think it is if it's open to the public.

Regards.

44 posted on 08/06/2014 9:49:53 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: GailA
"If they were muslim not a word would have been said for fear of law suits. "

NO- nothing would have been said about a muslin rolling out a prayer rug, pointing his ass toward mecca, and singing out loud to his moongod because of a very real fear of having his head separated from his body.

45 posted on 08/06/2014 9:54:49 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Demonazi's are openly marching us (Jews, Christians, Conservatives) double time to Holocaust II.)
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To: Fiji Hill

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46 posted on 08/06/2014 10:04:03 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Demonazi's are openly marching us (Jews, Christians, Conservatives) double time to Holocaust II.)
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To: GailA; sickoflibs

“...What does it matter if it is private or public property, being able to pray is the right of Every American Citizen...”

Sure it is their right... right up until it infringes on some else’s right - like private property rights.

Think of it this way. You own a small business; say, a shoe store. A group of Moslems walk in and decide to hold a head-bump session with your floor. Sure, they have a RIGHT to pray - just NOT on YOUR property. They can go somewhere else and do it. And You have the absolute right to tell them to GTFO. The mall is no different. Someone owns it, and they have a right to regulate who and what goes on within it.

Same with CCW. And yes, I DO carry. I won’t shop in places that don’t allow me to defend myself - BUT - if I do decide to go in, that’s on me. And they’d never know it anyway, unless there was a life-or-death incident, and in that case, I’d have my day in court - ALIVE.

This is the system we have; it works. I don’t care whether they’re Christians, Jews, Muzzies, or Worshippers of the Universal Cosmic Bellybutton Lint. When you’re on private property you are there at the discretion of the owner.

Public property is another matter entirely. Your taxes pay for whatever piece of ground you are standing on, or driving on at any given moment.


47 posted on 08/06/2014 10:09:24 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: GailA; sickoflibs

“...What does it matter if it is private or public property, being able to pray is the right of Every American Citizen...”

Sure it is their right... right up until it infringes on some else’s right - like private property rights.

Think of it this way. You own a small business; say, a shoe store. A group of Moslems walk in and decide to hold a head-bump session with your floor. Sure, they have a RIGHT to pray - just NOT on YOUR property. They can go somewhere else and do it. And You have the absolute right to tell them to GTFO. The mall is no different. Someone owns it, and they have a right to regulate who and what goes on within it.

Same with CCW. And yes, I DO carry. I won’t shop in places that don’t allow me to defend myself - BUT - if I do decide to go in, that’s on me. And they’d never know it anyway, unless there was a life-or-death incident, and in that case, I’d have my day in court - ALIVE.

This is the system we have; it works. I don’t care whether they’re Christians, Jews, Muzzies, or Worshippers of the Universal Cosmic Bellybutton Lint. When you’re on private property you are there at the discretion of the owner.

Public property is another matter entirely. Your taxes pay for whatever piece of ground you are standing on, or driving on at any given moment.


48 posted on 08/06/2014 10:09:24 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Rashputin; Gene Eric; Yashcheritsiy; GailA; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj
RE :”There is no such thing as, “no one” or “everyone” when it comes to restricting a behavior. Behaviors have been upheld as a form of free speech protected under the First Amendment ..”

No way on others property, look at Abortion buffer protest zone case McCullen v. Coakley .

The SCOTUS didn't give protestors the right to protest on others property wo their permission, they upheld the right for them to protest on public property.

Come on my property without my permission and you might end up in jail. ‘No trespassing’

Come in my house then follow my rules, I pay the mortgage.

49 posted on 08/06/2014 10:11:12 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: NFHale

” Sure, they have a RIGHT to pray - just NOT on YOUR property.”

Actually no. Refusing them could get you charged with a Hate Crime. You may as well be telling blacks they can’t eat in your restaurant.


50 posted on 08/06/2014 10:13:51 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: NFHale; Rashputin; Gene Eric; Yashcheritsiy; GailA; Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

Some of these folks seem to think they have a *right* to occupy your property with signs that say ‘Pray for NFHALE, his guns kill innocent people’, with signs of dead minority kids w gunshot wounds.

As long as its prayer related

On Your property NF !!!!

They claim its a *right*
right???


51 posted on 08/06/2014 10:15:39 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: AppyPappy

Again... if it’s my house, my business, my property, I will set the rules. If they don’t like the rules they can GTFO.

“Hate crime” BS or not.

If we are to call ourselves Free People, we should ACT like Free People and stand up for ourselves and our enumerated rights.

You cannot let a threat of legal sanction stop you from defending your rights - or they are NOT rights.

But if you are on private property, you are there at the discretion - and good graces - of the owner. If he asks you to leave, and you do not, he has the right to have the police remove you for trespass.

If they wanted to pray, they can go outside, off the private property. They have the right to do that there.

And again - as long as that is NOT blocking, impeding, or stopping anyone else in the process.


52 posted on 08/06/2014 10:27:41 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: sickoflibs

“...Some of these folks seem to think they have a *right* to occupy your property with signs that say ‘Pray for NFHALE, his guns kill innocent people’...”

They would be escorted very quickly “right” OFF my property.

Pretty much period.


53 posted on 08/06/2014 10:31:04 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: sickoflibs

“...Some of these folks seem to think they have a *right* to occupy your property with signs that say ‘Pray for NFHALE, his guns kill innocent people’...”

They would be escorted very quickly “right” OFF my property.

Pretty much period.


54 posted on 08/06/2014 10:31:04 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: AppyPappy
You may as well be telling blacks they can’t eat in your restaurant.

The Dublin Girls:

55 posted on 08/06/2014 10:49:31 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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UPDATE: Dublin Mall owners respond to prayer flap

MCK Properties, owners of Dublin Mall, say they don't have an issue with people "privately and quietly praying."

John Engler, vice president of MCK, released the following statement:

"The Dublin Mall over the last week has been the subject of conversation throughout the community. Through meeting with some of the various people involved, some of the stories have merit while others have gone off the deep end and due to the sensitive issue have publically hampered the Dublin Mall. The Mall first and foremost has no issues or objection whatsoever with anyone of any religion denomination privately and quietly praying over there food before they eat or showing devotion towards their religion of choice provided it does not impose itself on others or take away from the overall shopping experience."
56 posted on 08/06/2014 10:59:40 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: NFHale

The mall is not owned by the manager so your point is moot. The “I can do anything I want with my property” is cute but not true.


57 posted on 08/06/2014 11:34:31 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: sickoflibs

Can the Jew that wears the yarmulka be legally denied access to the private mall? Is it permissible to say “God bless you”? Can the mother whisper to her child “God loves you”? Can the atheist wear a t-shirt declaring “God doesn’t exist”?

While discrimination is generally deplorable, I’m not one to demand private operations implement public policy even when discrimination is involved. But regarding the women that claimed a quiet prayer huddle, I’m wondering how even-handed the mall’s policy is on the matter.


58 posted on 08/06/2014 11:44:34 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: AppyPappy

The mall property is owned by someone - be it a corporation, a private person, or a group of private people.

The manager’s job is make sure the business runs smoothly, efficiently, and profitably. And disturbance free.

If the manager is acting in concert with the wishes of the owner(s), and they have a policy in place to remove what they consider a disturbance, then he is within his rights.

And as for my property, if someone decides to hold a prayer meeting on my front porch, I can guarantee you my local law enforcement will remove them at my request.

Nothing “cute” about it. That’s all there is to it.


59 posted on 08/06/2014 12:26:30 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: AppyPappy; Brown Deer

“...The Mall first and foremost has no issues or objection whatsoever with anyone of any religion denomination privately and quietly praying over there food before they eat or showing devotion towards their religion of choice provided it does not impose itself on others or take away from the overall shopping experience.”

There you go.


60 posted on 08/06/2014 12:28:39 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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