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"These problems have their roots in a major constitutional transformation that began a hundred years ago. In 1913, the 16th Amendment was ratified, allowing Congress to institute a real income tax for the first time. Later that year the 17th Amendment provided for direct election of senators."
1 posted on 08/05/2014 4:18:49 PM PDT by Jacquerie
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2 posted on 08/05/2014 4:26:03 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Jacquerie

Fedzilla. Out of the cage since Reconstruction.


3 posted on 08/05/2014 4:27:24 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Jacquerie

A good read...
but what are we going to do about it?

My fantasy:
What if the House of Representatives just did nothing...
and I mean absolutely nothing.
No committee meetings, no legislation brought to the floor,
no budget, no appropriations, NOTHING.
Just adjourn and go home.
What would happen to the Fed Gov?


4 posted on 08/05/2014 4:29:35 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Jacquerie

Not trying to be ornery, good article, but still, where has this author been, “the separation between federal and state.. that vital divide is fast disappearing”


5 posted on 08/05/2014 4:33:02 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool])
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To: Jacquerie

You know I had a conversation at lunch with someone today that the thing I fear the most is some powerful conservative who is fed up with the stupidity of the average america throwing their hands up in the air and saying:

“You know what, you all are too stuipid for freedom and you want socialism and top down state power, you can have it and I will ram it down your throat so that you all choke on it”.

We know the left better than the left knows itself and someone like that would be damned dangerous as the would know HOW and WHY their enemy does what they do and GOD help us all if they decide that their own “ROLE” is Punish the sleeping americans with Tyranny in order to teach all the doltas out there a “lesson”.

Honestly, That scares the living SH!T out of me...

While the leftists seem greedy and manipulative for their own ends they are short sighted to their own damned motives (and flaws) , someone who listens to people like Mark Levin and reads Montesque and listens to Reagan but ALSO UNDERSTANDS them decides to turn on US use that Knowledge to punish all of us....

May God have mercy on us should a self appointed Angel of Vengence decide to enact divine retribution on a sleeping America.... I fear someone likle that more than a demon like Obama....


9 posted on 08/05/2014 4:42:35 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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"When in the course of human events......"
12 posted on 08/05/2014 5:11:21 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Jacquerie
"These problems have their roots in a major unconstitutional transformation that began a hundred years ago. In 1913, the 16th Amendment was improperly ratified while most of Congress was away for Christmas break, allowing Congress to illegally institute a real income tax for the first time in clear opposition to the founding principles of the republic. Later that year the 17th Amendment provided for direct election of senators."

There we are. Income taxes are immoral and unethical. Learn the history of the Federal Reserve and the debt you did not incur!

14 posted on 08/05/2014 5:43:31 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of liberty only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: Jacquerie

Bump


16 posted on 08/05/2014 6:06:44 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Jacquerie

Democracy sucks


17 posted on 08/05/2014 6:08:32 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Jacquerie

14th has no purpose. and i agree the 16th, 15th, 14th, 13th all are not necessary amendments to the constitution because none of them actually amend anything in the constitution. by 1865 numb nuts had already taken over. Congress could and should have abolished slavery wo any amendment to the constitution. the constitutions slavery clause is for counting slaves for the purpose of allocating voting districts in the house.

the 16th, however only imposes a tax on incomes from sources derived. it did not allow taxes on wages. that is the entire creation of the (unlawful) supreme court when it created a law and decided Glenshaw Glass and redefined what the meaning of the word income is (is).


22 posted on 08/05/2014 8:53:45 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: Jacquerie

I commented yesterday on another forum that our problems with too much FedGov really got started in the Wilson era.


23 posted on 08/06/2014 1:01:12 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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