Perch too, Steelhead trout, Coho Salmon..
Posted on 08/02/2014 2:08:10 PM PDT by machogirl
Governor John Kasich has issued a state of emergency for Lucas County and surrounding communities due to algae toxins detected in the water during routine testing.
Do not drink the water. Alternative water should be used for drinking, making infant formula, making ice, brushing teeth and preparing food. Pets should not drink the water.
Do not boil the water.. Boiling the water will not destroy the toxins. It will increase the concentration of the toxins.
Consuming water containing algal toxins may result in abnormal liver function, diarrhea, vomiting, nausea, numbness or dizziness. Seek medical attention if you feel you have been exposed to algal toxins and are having adverse health effects. Skin contact with contaminated water can cause irritation or rashes. Contact a veterinarian immediately if pets or livestock show signs of illness.
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“I recall in 1974 when I heard that Lake Erie in Ohio had actually caught on fire, so thick it had become with sludge and discarded fuel residues.”
No, not Lake Erie. That was the Cuyahoga River running through The Flats before it dumps into Lake Erie. Lots of industrial polution was being dumped into the river in those days.
I’m sure the Obama Administration has a plan for a crisis like this. The Illegal Immigrants are to receive water FIRST.
I live in the first non-effected city next to Toledo. By morning all of our water was bought up, along with Findlay’s water which is about 50 miles South of Toledo. Friends are scarping the bottoms of ice bins in my (safe water) city to get water to drink. You can’t boil it as it gets more concentrated.
This could get really, really bad. I wonder if there is a shelf-life for the toxins? (I would say 1/2 life, but I’m not really sure what words to use), but soon the algae will be all dead, but for how long will the toxins be reactive? As long as there is water in the lake? Still deadly in the silt? Could be an entire cycle of life a dead zone in that 1/3 of the lake. The “middle basin” is supposed to be the best fishing of walleye?
Thx for the Ping...here is a copy of a post (discussion) on another Toledo Water thread:
To: EBH
I did read the entire thread, and I want to add my own two cents.
I work in the pool industry. We routinely computer test our clients’ water to balance the water chemistry (for optimum chlorine, salt, non-chlorine). One of the test we routinely run for chlorine/salt pools is for phosphate levels. The last two seasons we have had remarkable 2500+ ppm phosphates reads on FRESH FILLS (new pools or pools getting replacement liners). This is tap water! We learned that our water authority (as many municipalities do) adds phosphate to our drinking water to (and this is the OFFICIAL term used in literature) “DE-GUNK” our old infrastructure. I cannot help but wonder if this routine procedure is ADDING to HABs like this.
Also, for the preppers, make sure you read labels if you use pool grade dry chlorine (shock) for water purification. ONLY calcium hypochlorite should be used—DO NOT EVER USE a tri-chlor shock for water purification to potable standards.
96 posted on August 2, 2014 at 11:03:56 PM EDT by PennsylvaniaMom ( Just because you are paranoid, it doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you...)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
We learned that our water authority (as many municipalities do) adds phosphate to our drinking water to (and this is the OFFICIAL term used in literature) “DE-GUNK” our old infrastructure. I cannot help but wonder if this routine procedure is ADDING to HABs like this.
I bet you are right. Years ago, I did some work on clarifiers. The curse to the sanitary departments was phosphates. That was the only thing in their process they could not remove and the big push was on to get it out of detergents. Those levels are insane. I think you are on to something more than the stock excuse of farmland runoff.
During college I also worked for a pool company in Pittsburgh. Did a lot of lab work. Testing was much more primitive and slower in those days. I can only imagine the equipment now.
97 posted on August 2, 2014 at 11:16:57 PM EDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer
Our computer testing (Pinpoint) is fairly sensitive. My employer has used several different phosphate testing methods (as again, we were/are getting INSANELY high phosphate readings. They ALL registered at the same levels). Worse concentrations, fresh fills. The multiple suppliers that we buy from have ALL had Phosphate Remover stock issues.
For places/areas/pool owners who don’t get water professionally tested, high phosphate levels (ie, no chemistry used to remove from suspension) it would be called “high chlorine demand.”
That’s a big fish.
Yup.
Good to eat too.
I read through this a couple hours ago.
Good info on Lake Erie and the three basins (zones i guess) it has. Depth at that end of the lake (western) around 24 feet.
http://www.lakeeriewaterkeeper.org/
I’ll take your word for it. (not a fish person) lol
That looks pretty. The water so BLUE.
Walleye is one of the finest eating fish in the world.
The water is a greenish blue due to the shallow depths.
Lake Michigan is a brilliant sapphire blue.
I read the info on the lake. I had no idea the west end was so shallow. Reminds of my swimming pool (at my old house). The first day it got really hot, the following day the pool was green. Had to shock the doo doo out of it and it was a salt water pool.
Yup the shallowness of that end would be a problem.
As someone else pointed out this algae seems to thrive on Phosphorus so fertilizer run off may have contributed.
Columbus not effected at all
Looks promising.
The average person uses 100 gallons of water a day:
The following are examples of how people use water found on the USGS government website:
http://water.usgs.gov/edu/qa-home-percapita.html
Bath A full tub is about 36 gallons.
Shower 2-2.5 gallons per minute. Old shower heads use as much as 4 gallons per minute.
Teeth brushing <1 gallon, especially if water is turned off while brushing. Newer bath faucets use about 1 gallon per minute, whereas older models use over 2 gallons.
Hands/face washing 1 gallon
Face/leg shaving 1 gallon
Dishwasher 20 gallons/load, depending of efficiency of dishwasher
Dishwashing by hand: 4 gallons/minute for old faucets.. Newer kitchen faucets use about 1-2 gallons per minutes.
Clothes washer 25 gallons/load for newer washers. Older models use about 40 gallons per load.
Toilet flush 3 gallons for older models. Most all new toilets use 1.2-1.6 gallons per flush.
Glasses of water drunk 8 oz. per glass (did you remember to drink your 8 glasses of water today?)
Outdoor watering 2 gallons per minute
There are 30 MILLION + illegal aliens in the US
so.... 30,000,000 X 100 gallons = 3 billion gallons of fresh water consumed per DAY by illegal aliens (at a minimum)
365 days in a year X 3 billion = 1.095 TRILLION gallons of water a year.
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