Posted on 08/01/2014 4:29:52 AM PDT by Kaslin
Janos is Ventura’s real name. And even though both Naval Special Warfare and the head of the group that uncovered fake SEALs have said on the record that Ventura was a SEAL and that the UDY/SEAL distinction is meaningless, some people nonetheless insist that Jesse isn’t a SEAL “just” a UDT (underwater demolition team) member.
This will no doubt go to appeal.
Ventura's real name.
What is UDT?
Underwater Demolition Team. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_Demolition_Team
There is a disagreement as to whether or not UDT were equivalent to SEALs at the time Ventura was a member. Some say yes, some say no. Either way, he was never officially part of a SEAL team. The wiki post states that in 1983, after additional SEAL training, the UDTs were rolled into SEAL teams.
I stand by my point. What point are you making?
Travis McGee (Matt Bracken) maintains that Ventura was not a SEAL by the definition/classification of the time.
That’s good enough for me.
Thanks, I did not know that was Ventura’s real name and thanks for the clarification of UDT
The point I’m making is that a group of citizens did their duty, sat through all the evidence including Chris Kyle’s videotaped deposition, took their job seriously went through several days of deliberation and found that Kyle had indeed defamed Ventura and harmed his reputation, and they don’t deserve to be insulted just because someone dislikes Ventura.
Me, too, but thought I would mention that even folks in-the-know disagree.
I hear you. Whatever, ol’ “Jesse” didn’t make himself any friends with this (not that he probably has many to begin with).
Yep, now there are even more movies from my youth I can no longer enjoy.
Good. You stepped right into my trap. Allow me to deconstruct your points. FIRST: to assume that a judge is smart enough or moral enough to even determine that the jury is a good one is to place waaaaaay too much faith in judges. Most I have seen are academia nuts with no common sense. Second, to assume that I dislike Ventura is both a stretch, and not relevant. My only opinion of Ventura to this point was only that he was a political idiot, who never even understood why he won the governorship of Minnesota in the first place.
Now, as a result of this case - suing a widow and someone who can no longer defend himself - because he's dead - is simply proof that he's a despicable human being. But I did not reach that conclusion UNTIL this action. I did not bring it into the discussion.
And third, I've heard a discussion of the merits of the case - and none of the panel could understand what the jury was possibly thinking.
So your turn to try and again defend this jury, this judge, or this verdict. BAD verdicts are reached all the time.
Posted on July 31 2014 - 7:27 PM - Posted by: Steve Flesher
Over at the Sarah Palin Channel, Governor Palin thankfully gives an effective smack-down to the often-bloviating Jesse Ventura over his lawsuit involving Chris Kyle’s family.
Hey tough guy, Jesse Ventura, your feelings were hurt because you perceived your reputation was besmirched by words in a book? So you turn around and sue, expecting $2 million from a military widow and her fatherless children? Yeah, like that is going to help your reputation, jackass.
Chris Kyle was a true American patriot — the soldier who stood up for his country and saved so many lives by doing the job his Commander-in-chief gave him, taking out the bad guys. For his extraordinary work, Chris was known as "The American Sniper." He was senselessly murdered on our own soil while helping a military brother. His widow and young children will forever feel a lot more "hurt" than you will, Jesse, after a sad verdict in your ridiculous lawsuit against Chris.
You can watch the video and join in on the discussion here.
Minnesota voters not only elected Ventura as their governor, but also elected Hollywood clown Al Franken as their Senator so there would be no shortage of nitwits to be jurors.
I would like to point out that both of these events occured in a state that also chose Al Franken as a senator.
The judge in the case was never an academic. He is a former attorney appointed to the bench by President Bush.
The jury watched Chris Kyle’s deposition, where he admitted that several parts of the account were false. They saw him admit that he tried to remove the story from the book after a friend warned him if it wasn’t true he could be sued. They saw him admit that he agreed to leave it in only if Ventura wasn’t named.
They saw emails from Kyle to the publisher expressing concern that Ventura’s name had been leaked and asking them to ask interviewers not to bring up the incident.
They saw Kyle in his deposition admit that he sent those emails because he was afraid he would be sued.
They heard his widow testify that his repeated claims that all proceeds from the book would be donated to veterans charities and his claims that the book had already raised significant funds were not true.
They saw the witnesses Kyle’s lawyers put on wildly disagree with each other and with Kyle’s account, and from that they concluded that what Kyle said was false.
If what he really wanted is to clear his name, that would add significant weight to the idea that his reputation was the issue, and not the money.
Ventura is not going to give up a single penny of that money. He wants it all.
I hope this shuts up all the freepers who were on here the other day spouting that it was OK because the insurance company would pay the award and Kris Kyles’ widow would not be harmed. Wrong!
There’s pond scum and then there’s Ventura.
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