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Pence wants child immigrants sent home
nwitimes.com ^ | July 29, 2014 | Dan Carden

Posted on 07/30/2014 2:58:30 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

INDIANAPOLIS | Gov. Mike Pence wants the 245 unaccompanied child immigrants recently placed with Indiana relatives or sponsors sent back across the nation's southern border as soon as possible.

In a letter sent Tuesday to President Barack Obama, the Republican said while he feels "deep compassion" for the children and believes they should be "treated humanely and with decency and respect," there is no place for them here.

"Failure to expedite the return of unaccompanied children thwarts the rule of law and will only continue to send a distorted message that illegally crossing into America is without consequence," Pence said.

Pence demanded the president provide proof that Hoosier families the children have been placed with have legal immigration status and requested "real-time" updates when child immigrants are moved into or out of Indiana.

The U.S. Office of Refugee Resettlement currently provides monthly updates.

The governor also bemoaned that Indiana will be required to educate and provide health care for the children until they leave.

"States should not be asked by the federal government to deal with the consequences of a failed national immigration policy," Pence said.

U.S. Sen. Dan Coats, R-Ind., said in a statement he shares Pence's concerns.

"The best way to stop this humanitarian crisis is to reunite the children who have come to America with their families in their home countries," Coats said. "Doing so will deter more children from making the dangerous journey to the United States."

State Sen. Brent Steele, R-Bedford, went a step further. Steele claimed in a letter sent Tuesday to his southern Indiana constituents that Obama personally encouraged the flow of immigrant children and declared Indiana is unable and unwilling to assimilate them.

"How far can you push a citizenry by increased taxation to pay for all these children before they revolt?" Steele asked.

Neither state nor federal taxes have increased due to this year's surge of unaccompanied child immigrants. In fact, Indiana's corporate income tax rate decreased 0.5 percent on July 1.

A total of 30,340 unaccompanied child immigrants -- many fleeing horrific gang violence in Central America -- have been placed with U.S. relatives or sponsors through July 7, according to the federal refugee office. Just 0.8 percent have come to Indiana.

The refugee office said before a child is released, relatives and sponsors must verify their relationship with the immigrant child, pass a background check and in some cases a home study.

All immigrant children receive pre-release vaccinations and medical screenings, and sponsors must agree to cooperate with all immigration proceedings.


TOPICS: US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: aliens

1 posted on 07/30/2014 2:58:30 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Dear Governor, call them what they are first, ILLEGAL “immigrants”. Law breakers. Criminals. Don’t let the left define the message by calling them “children” or “child” or “undocumented” or un-accompanied”. Call them what they are.
If the U.S. had a SHTF moment and our young adults were bailing down south; think Mexico wouldn’t staff their northern border with heavy weapons??


2 posted on 07/30/2014 3:02:45 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

agreed!


3 posted on 07/30/2014 3:13:25 PM PDT by MeekMom (He is risen, no longer in the grave. Death could not hold Him. Behold Christ the risen Lord!)
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4 posted on 07/30/2014 3:16:59 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Tennessee Nana; sickoflibs; TADSLOS; GOPJ; Jane Long
THIS JUST IN The UN underlines Obama's refugee plan---will broadly designate illegal aliens at our borders, including MS-13 members from Central America, as “refugees.”So are violent gang members roaming the streets in your town?

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REFERNCE Violent transnational gangs 'recruiting unaccompanied minors at Border Security facilities'
Daily Mail UK ^ | July 27, 2014 | Daily Mail / FR Posted by COUNTrecount

Members of some of the United States' most notorious street gangs have infiltrated shelters housing illegal immigrant minors from Central America and are recruiting them, say Homeland Security sources. An estimated 57,000 minors from Central America have flooded across the border from Mexico to the U.S. in recent months, and gang leaders are reportedly filling their ranks from among them.

Transnational gangs such as the Mara Salvatruca, also known as MS-13, and the 18th Street gang are using established juvenile members from Central America to cross the border and recruit other children to the cartels, say sources. Recruiting drive:

There are reports that gangs are trying to recruit young immigrants from Border Protection facilities where they're being held According to Fox News, Border Control agents have witnessed gang members using a Red Cross phone bank at the facility at Nogales, Arizona, to 'recruit, enlist and pressure' other minors into crossing the border. Shawn Moran, vice president of the National Border Control Patrol Council, a union which represents border agents, says agents have witnessed the recruiting process.

The Department of Homeland Security and Immigration and Customs Enforcement said earlier this week that they have no knowledge or evidence that gangs are recruiting immigrant minors. (Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...

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There were interesting exchanges on this topic at yesterday's House hearing on immigration.

<><> Patriot Cong Randy Forbes said Americans need to know if violent gang members are walking their streets. Forbes asked UCIS--a DHS agency--headed by Obama appointee Leon Rodrigues---whether the agency asked applicants whether they are gang members---and when they invariably reply no, how does the agency know whether it's true or not?

Rodriguez would not reveal information---Forbes insisted on knowing "do you even ask them if they're gang members."

<><> Even more interesting was watching brilliant Cong Louie Gohmert (Rep-Tx) set the trap for the oily Rodriguez. Gohmert--- the former judge's brilliant circumlocution was awesome. He nailed the mealy-mouth Gonzalez to the wall.

GOHMERT: WRT drug cartels paid $6000 to "guide" the hordes over the birder---"Would you, as a former prosecutor, call them criminals?," he nonchalantly asked Gonzales.

Gonzales stepped into the trap as Cong Gohmert casually hoisted him on his own petard. Making the point that if the hordes were coming here to escape drug cartels, why is it they pay the violent breed to get over the border?

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REFERENCE Comments on the C-span hearing rebroadcast of yesterday's House hearing on border immigration.

Obama appointee, UCIS head, Leon Gonzales was interviewed. Totally biased---said his second language was Spanish----and that he once belonged to Casa Manana (or something), that was advocating for unlimited immigration.

The lock-stepping Gonzalez gets grade A for Evasion and for loyally following orders from the Commandant in the WH.

When Democrats questioned him, he knew everything and responded in great detail. But to Republicans he whined about being new to the jobs---and parroted "gotta get back to you on that."

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Repub Cong/men Jason Chaffetz, Louis Gohmert and Randy Forbes were standout patriots, protecting Americans from the invading hordes at the border.

Cong Gohmert stopped the show with his probing judicial-like queries---the former judge's brilliant circumlocution, and his prodigious knowledge of the law was awesome---as well as his ability to nail Gonzalez to the wall.

WRT drug cartels paid $6000 to "guide" the hordes over the birder---"Would you call them criminals?," he asked Gonzales. Making the point that if the hordes were coming here to escape drug cartels, why is it they pay the violent breed to get over the border?

Gonzales made a show of his legal bgrnd---but he paled agaimst Goehmert's expertise. Gonzales, as a former prosecutor and officer of the court, should know that the US justice system is not amenable to dispensing justice to litigants w/ "unclean hands"---a legal term meaning those who have committed crimes. His license to practice law should be pulled.

Sad to see Cong Jason Chaffetz's resignation, knowing we'd get nowhere with the lock-stepping Gonsalez----prostrate in obeisance to Obama---his lips pressed firmly to the WH behind.

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Cong Guttierez (Dim-Ill) made a lamebrain appearance--- this imbecile had to have used voter fraud to get into office---no one in their right mind would vote for the Spanglish-speaking moron.

We need to find out (1) how many identities he's using, (2) how many govt checks he, his family, and his staff are cashing, and, (3) Guttierez's membership in violent organizations advocating the overthrow of the US govt.

5 posted on 07/30/2014 3:28:08 PM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

One more step, if you please, Pence:

There was an article on FR a bit ago about a young college student, supporting her grandmother, who is working a second job to pay off the coyote debt.

Children enslaved by coyote debt become a means of support to those who engage in human trafficking and to those that pay to bring them over as they work to pay off the debt. Acquiring a child via “unaccompanied child” trafficking enables illegal alien households to qualify for increased social services, and to benefit from increased cash earnings into the relative’s household as the “child” is hired out to pay the debt. Coyotes can “re-sell” the debt to someone else more determined to collect.

These children need to be returned to their own countries where their own governments can ensure that they are with who they are supposed to be with and that they are not exploited under color of ‘migrant status.’

Human Rights Watch reports on wage slavery (just substitute ‘coyote’ or ‘relative’ for the word ‘employer’ and the word ‘unaccompanied child’ with the word ‘mother’):

“In a typical case, a woman is recruited with promises of a good job in another country or province, and lacking better options at home, she agrees to migrate. There are also cases in which...children are bartered by their parents for a cash advance and/or promises of future earnings.... Next an agent makes arrangements for the woman’s travel ....”

“The most common form of coercion Human Rights Watch has documented is debt bondage. Women are told that they must work without wages until they have repaid the purchase price advanced by their employers, an amount far exceeding the cost of their travel expenses. Even for those women who knew they would be in debt, this amount is invariably higher than they expected and is routinely augmented with arbitrary fines and dishonest account keeping. Employers also maintain their power to “resell” indebted women into renewed levels of debt. In some cases, women find that their debts only increase and can never be fully repaid.”

http://www.hrw.org/news/2000/02/21/international-trafficking-women-and-children


6 posted on 07/30/2014 3:36:04 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Dream on Mike. Barry wants these little future voters prepared for the polls.


7 posted on 07/30/2014 3:40:12 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Greyhound bus lines, governor. Have their chaperone flush them out as soon as the buses are in front of the White House. Unless Indiana has the swag to fly them all to National airport, like the feds.


8 posted on 07/30/2014 3:54:13 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...

Pence wants child immigrants sent home
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Is that what he said ???

I don’t think so...

I would think Pence wants child illegal aliens sent home

and their illegal alien parents and the other adult illegal aliens also...

why would immigrants who would be here legally be deported ???


9 posted on 07/30/2014 4:09:18 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What Pence should do, and all the other governors, is to put them on a plane and fly them back to their country. It would be much cheaper, and he would be cleaning up Obama’s mess.


10 posted on 07/30/2014 4:13:39 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Liz

So are violent gang members roaming the streets in your town?
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3 MS-13 illegal aliens murdered another illegal alien in my town about 10 years ago..

they burnt his body in a car in Polk County, TN..

I had to read about it in the newspaper..

my sheriff at the time told me that the LEOs “didn’t want to scare anyone” so we were never told they had been here for a couple of years at that time...


11 posted on 07/30/2014 4:13:58 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Ghost of SVR4

They are Illegal Invaders.


12 posted on 07/30/2014 5:19:31 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: Liz
Cong Guttierez (Dim-Ill) made a lamebrain appearance--- this imbecile had to have used voter fraud to get into office---no one in their right mind would vote for the Spanglish-speaking moron. We need to find out (1) how many identities he's using, (2) how many govt checks he, his family, and his staff are cashing, and, (3) Guttierez's membership in violent organizations advocating the overthrow of the US govt.

Can we assume the FBI is all over this? (Just kidding - they're out there looking for some conservative 'lone wolf' from the 'lone wolf gun 'fast and furious' gun store...)

Thanks for the ping.

13 posted on 07/31/2014 7:33:11 AM PDT by GOPJ ( NBC - - "Nothing But Crap" network ...)
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