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To: Gunslingr3

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This was from much earlier today. I've heard UK forces took back Torez since. It will probably come down to the two big cities soon.

12 posted on 07/27/2014 8:11:35 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

There are a number of these maps online, all pretty similar.

Some of the Ukrainian forces along the border are definitely in jeopardy, depending mostly on what actions the Russians on the Russian side take against them (shelling, missile attacks, or more), but, in general the separatist / invader coalition is in greater danger of eventually being encircled and cut off.*

I would note that I have read that Ukraine has called up another 50k reservists, expecting Putin to make a move, or perhaps to try to give him pause. (Can anyone confirm this call-up?)

I still think Ukraine can eventually “win” even against a large Russian invasion, IF Ukraine is willing to take very heavy casualties and still resist. I do not think Putin can afford an “Afghanistan” adventure vs. a relatively high tech country the size of Ukraine. Historically, Ukraine is certainly no stranger to heavy casualties.

*Note that Ukraine may have a different strategy which answers a question of mine: If the Ukraine army surrounds the rebel / invaders, and the bulk of them surrender, then what? Perhaps Ukraine would be better served to leave part of the border open for pro-Russians to flee to Russia. Heck, Russia asked the U.N. to pass a resolution providing, essentially, just that: creation of corridors allowing noncombatants to leave.

This may play right into Kiev’s plans: In return for higher Ukrainian Army casualties now, if, say 10% of the Ethnic Russians in Ukraine flee to Russia, which I believe RT says has already happened (RT claimed 675,000 as of March 2 of this year — Google or Bing it), then the pro-west camp gains a virtual political lock on the country for the indefinite future.


15 posted on 07/27/2014 10:47:48 PM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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