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To: cripplecreek

Russia is a different situation. The Ukraine has little strategic value, other than it’s a proxy battle between Western influence and Russia. So it’s a valid intervention.

Libya was of no value at all and I believe there should be a rule set in stone that says....

“If you break it, you have to fix it.”

To fix Libya, just like Iraq, and any other country where they have never had a government even slightly resembling democracy and have live under one authoritarian ruler or another, it would have to take at a minimum a 30-40 year program of aid and assistance to get them converted.

You have to create a environment where the next generation of people begin to assume roles in government before you can eradicate the old.

The Ukraine is not of that category. It requires much less effort and time.

That is why Iraq, Libya, and any other tin pan dictator country that has been that way for generations, will never be fixed by a short term intervention.

Hope that answers the question from my perspective.


17 posted on 07/26/2014 5:52:42 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Cold Heat

I didn’t ask a question.


18 posted on 07/26/2014 5:55:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Cold Heat

“The Ukraine has little strategic value, other than it’s a proxy battle between Western influence and Russia. So it’s a valid intervention.”

Why is that valid? See Buchanan and Stockman here: http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/my-thoughts-on-pat-buchanans-brilliant-and-incisive-take-on-washingtons-ukrainian-fiasco/?utm_source=wysija&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Mailing+List+Mid+Day+Friday


37 posted on 07/26/2014 6:29:37 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Cold Heat
“If you break it, you have to fix it.”

Why?

52 posted on 07/26/2014 7:30:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Cold Heat

Actually, Ukraine is the definition of “strategic” to the Russians. It’s called their breadbasket meaning most of their home grown grain products come from the area. It’s the best farmland Ivan has. It’s sort of lost in the fine print but Pootin was having trouble selling them enough gas to pay for the grain that he needs. Good farmland might not usually be thot of as strategic but if you ain’t got it you ain’t got groceries.


96 posted on 07/26/2014 1:03:23 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Cold Heat
"Libya was of no value at all and I believe there should be a rule set in stone that says.... “If you break it, you have to fix it.”

Except we don't want Obama trying to fix it. Leave it for the next President. Hopefully, someone with more competence and not beholden to the Muslims.

128 posted on 07/29/2014 10:38:34 AM PDT by DannyTN (I)
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