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This from a guy who NEVER Spent ONE DAY in Uniform.
1 posted on 07/25/2014 7:10:34 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet
Go Away, Gingrich.

He had his time, now he is just a has-been politician trying to say something relevant and failing. We need to strengthen our military, not gut it. I guess he thinks he is brilliant with his pentagon to triangle comparison.

A day late and a dollar short.

2 posted on 07/25/2014 7:18:24 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: US Navy Vet

I spent quite a few thousand days in uniform, am not a Gingrich fan by any means, and I still agree with him here.

The DOD upper echelon is fat with pork, waste, and redundancy.


3 posted on 07/25/2014 7:21:09 AM PDT by EricT. (Everything not forbidden is compulsory.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Don’t rock the boat?


4 posted on 07/25/2014 7:24:41 AM PDT by McGruff (Hell we can't even secure our border never mind Ukraine's.)
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To: US Navy Vet
"“You have 23,000 people working in a building built in the middle of World War II using paper-based bureaucratic models,” he said. “Now, if we’re going to be tough-minded about government bureaucracy, why wouldn’t we be tough-minded about the Pentagon?”

To Gingrich, this “paper-based” bureaucracy creates too many levels of hierarchy, slows the process down and increases the overall cost of running the Pentagon. His solution is to cut this bureaucracy down and appropriate the saved money to combat troops and combat equipment, thus transforming the Pentagon into a “triangle.”

What, exactly, is wrong with that?

5 posted on 07/25/2014 7:25:03 AM PDT by EricT. (Everything not forbidden is compulsory.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Had his chance. Blew it. Now go away.


6 posted on 07/25/2014 7:25:11 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: US Navy Vet

Just make it a cicle, complete with the jerks in the White House.


14 posted on 07/25/2014 7:45:48 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: US Navy Vet

Just a reminder that Gingrich actually CUT the budget deficit and debt while in office. This is what’s wrong with America today, everybody bitches but won’t vote for the ones to fix it. As it is, I will vote for Cruz, but if Newt runs again, he will get a strong look from me. Almost anyone will tell you he always the smartest guy in the room, but for some reason we vote for a guy we want to have a beer with. Well, I’m trying to get the country fixed, not drink with politicians.


18 posted on 07/25/2014 7:52:29 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: US Navy Vet

As a military retiree, here’s my take: there is room to trim the Pentagon budget, but (invariably) the cuts come from the “tooth” and not the “tail.”

A few examples: the Army is getting rid of 10 combat brigades. Why? The brass will claim that “advances in technology” will allow us to get by with fewer trigger-pullers, but Iraq and Afghanistan debunked that myth again. We got rid of 10 brigades because Obama and Co. mandated the cuts (can’t touch social programs)and combat units are manpower and resource intensive. Cut a brigade and there is a huge ripple effect in the support area as well. So, the reductions go even deeper, and so does the decrease in our combat power.

The Navy plans to “sideline” almost two dozen cruisers and destroyers for a few years, before modernizing them and bringing those ships back into the fleet. Does anyone with half a brain actually believe those vessels will ever return to service once they’ve been mothballed? And once again, the cuts are aimed at manpower-intensive systems (and combat capabilities). So far, the carriers have escaped the cuts, but if you reduce your cruiser and destroyer squadrons, it becomes a risker proposition to send the carriers into harm’s way.

A similar scenario is unfolding in the Air Force. To fund the F-35, large numbers of older aircraft will be retired. The A-10 dodged that bullet this year, but it’s a sure bet the same proposal will be made in 2016 (and every year beyond) until the Hawg is retired.

Never mind that the platform is more capable than ever, and the F-35 can carry only a fraction of the payload (but it is stealthy). And never mind the A-10 is optimal for the types of conflicts we will fight in the years ahead. The Air Force is so cash-strapped they will have to sideline the A-10 (along with significant numbers of F-15s and F-16s) to pay for the JSF—and hope there are no MRCs until the F-35 begins arriving in significant numbers.

The Marine Corps plan is similar to the Army’s; cut manpower-intensive units to preserve big-ticket items like the F-35. Some estimates show the Corps’ end strength dropping as low as 150,000 by the end of this decade; if that happens, it means one out of four active duty Marines will be pushed out.

All of this is lost on Mr. Gingrich. He thinks a clever speech line is a substitute for an effective national security strategy. Like a lot of his “ideas,” it’s very short of specifics.


19 posted on 07/25/2014 8:01:48 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: US Navy Vet

Are you suggesting that there isn’t top heavy bloat in the military?


26 posted on 07/25/2014 9:36:07 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: US Navy Vet

Cheap hawk is the kind who cuts veteran health for greed.


29 posted on 07/25/2014 9:38:00 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: US Navy Vet
The "Pentagon" is not necessarily an asset to either the military or conservatism.

The Pentagon, like the Departments of State, Education, HHS, etc. has its own share of self-preserving bureaucrats that sometimes work counter to the constituency they are supposed to serve.

His solution is to cut this bureaucracy down and appropriate the saved money to combat troops and combat equipment, thus transforming the Pentagon into a “triangle.”

This USMC combat veteran says "Ooooh Rah!" to Newt.

30 posted on 07/25/2014 11:38:01 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know")
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McNamara tried completely changing the military using a for-profit business model and it took 20 years for the military to recover. Rule one for re-engineering - never try to change an existing system until you completely understand the old one. The Pentagon has evolved over 60 years. The military is one of the few things that the Federal Government is doing right. He needs to be careful if he plans on scrapping it without understanding the impact of what he's doing.

One of the reasons that the Pentagon hasn't gone entirely paperless is because our infrastructure is vulnerable. What happens if an enemy knocks out the power or takes down communications if everything is stored electronically?

31 posted on 07/25/2014 12:57:04 PM PDT by Rhinoman (SMSgt, USAF (Ret))
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Gingrich’s Contract with America: The Power of Conservative Ideas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9we5yBxGSjc&list=UU5bEfSFTYQVfLCwkhBt8NtQ

Jul 23, 2014

In 1994, after languishing in the minority for 40 years, the Republicans decided to stop being the me-too party. They took a principled conservative stand against the reigning liberal dogmas — and won big, taking control of Congress. Key to this victory was Newt Gingrich’s Contract with America, a conservative agenda that rallied Americans in favor of limited government and promised to reform the way Congress worked.


34 posted on 07/31/2014 10:02:56 AM PDT by Valin (I'm not completely worthless. I can be used as a bad example.)
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