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Fed appeals court panel says most Obamacare subsidies illegal
CNBC.com ^ | July 22, 2014 | Dan Mangan

Posted on 07/22/2014 7:30:07 AM PDT by gwjack

This is a breaking news story. Please check back for updates. In a potentially crippling blow to Obamacare, a top federal appeals court Tuesday said that billions of dollars worth of government subsidies that helped 4.7 million people buy insurance on HealthCare.gov are not legal under the Affordable Care Act.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: halbig; obamacare; subsidies
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Yes, but a lot of us got what we didn’t vote for.


121 posted on 07/22/2014 8:16:59 AM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: gwjack

Opinions (3 of them) are at:

http://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/10125254D91F8BAC85257D1D004E6176/$file/14-5018-1503850.pdf


122 posted on 07/22/2014 8:17:14 AM PDT by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: pepsionice

10 years ago a Blue Cross plan was $112/month. Plenty affordable for everyone. Under OBamaCare, that plan is $380.


123 posted on 07/22/2014 8:17:28 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: kabar
Obama didn’t expect so many states to opt out of setting up the exchange.

He thinks Chicago is normal.

124 posted on 07/22/2014 8:17:57 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Night Hides Not

Correct. Meaningless. Now goes to 11 man stacked by Obama full court in DC and will fail. Elections have consequences. Obama is laughing this morning - at us. Wonder when is tee time?


125 posted on 07/22/2014 8:18:08 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Clearly the law was written sloppily, to have this major oversight in it.”

Really think this was an oversight? What if it wasn’t? What if it was designed to suck in poor folks with the taxpayer subsidies and then pull the rug from under them? If by law they still have to purchase it, they become slaves to Obamacare.


126 posted on 07/22/2014 8:18:31 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: DAC21

Thanks!


127 posted on 07/22/2014 8:18:48 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It would be fantastic if the courts ruled that the states had to set up the plans. We the People have a direct line to our state government and can keep them from capitulating. We’ll have an open state vs fedgov showdown.


128 posted on 07/22/2014 8:20:35 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: bert

“Unmentioned is that if you received subsidies and they were not legal, you must pay them back”

If this is correct, the repercussions will be staggering. Couldn’t happen to a nicer law. Maybe there is such a thing as karma after all.

It is a known fact that every time Obama gets good news re: Obamacare he very conspicuously knocks on wood. Wonder what his reaction to this ruling will be? Knock on BO, the dog? Take his 11 Wood out of his golf bag & knock a hole in the Oval Office?


129 posted on 07/22/2014 8:20:38 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: gwjack

Please post on its own thread so can be easily found , bookmarked etc


130 posted on 07/22/2014 8:21:11 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Fantasywriter

Did he ask you how many guns you have in your house?


131 posted on 07/22/2014 8:21:33 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: gwjack



132 posted on 07/22/2014 8:21:42 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: gwjack

“I have a pen, and I have a phone” can just declare the subsidies as legal — just like the other changes he has declared to the law since it became ‘settled law’.


133 posted on 07/22/2014 8:21:54 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: demshateGod

If he had, that would have been my last visit to that MD. But he is a conservative. He is not an Obama lackey.


134 posted on 07/22/2014 8:22:35 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: epluribus_2

Meaningless? You must have drunk the Obama Koolaid.


135 posted on 07/22/2014 8:23:18 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

The vast majority are not getting subsidies through the States (as only a few States set up exchanges to begin with and of those at least 2 have abandoned them).

So this is very significant ... if it is upheld.


136 posted on 07/22/2014 8:23:18 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: MeshugeMikey

OMC! He looks like a zombie!

Great job, as always.


137 posted on 07/22/2014 8:23:50 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Dilbert San Diego; Old Teufel Hunden; Jewbacca; Hoodat

No question, this is great news. However, I wouldn’t put it past the Kenyan Marxist to respond by threatening to withhold ALL federal funding to states who continue to choose not to set up their own exchange. Yes, that would be unconstitutional and right out of the playbook of Saul Alinsky, to be sure, but we’re dealing with an evil regime committed to imposing their satanic agenda by any means necessary. The states must hold firm and NOT GIVE IN to any bullying, bribery, or coersion from these despicable, America-hating Communists!


138 posted on 07/22/2014 8:23:54 AM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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To: CodeToad

Is that $112 in 2004 $$, or 2014 $$?

Still, the premiums for even a Bronze plan that doesn’t cover squat outside of catastrophic illness or injury are totally unaffordable for an average family — by design.


139 posted on 07/22/2014 8:23:58 AM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: Noamie
Think I’m kidding?

Not at all. The current crop of RINO's are the best friends the DemonicRats ever had.

140 posted on 07/22/2014 8:24:05 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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