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1 posted on 07/20/2014 2:39:56 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
They could try not flying over war zones.

See how that works out.

2 posted on 07/20/2014 2:42:40 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: Kaslin

#1 should be “don’t fly over a war zone” That would take care of much of the risk.

Right now, I’m more concerned with hordes of the great unwashed carrying TB, scabies, lice, measles, etc. sitting around me. That, and a Muslim with a shoe bomb that got through security while the TSA was doing a cavity search on an 80-year-old nun.


3 posted on 07/20/2014 2:43:50 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Kaslin

I think that system is based on IR - think flares as a defense.

Flares don’t help with radar systems like this last one.


4 posted on 07/20/2014 2:44:14 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Kaslin

Can I ask a stupid question? Are we now seeing rogue soldiers from Russia, or terrorists, getting their hands on rocket launchers??? It stuns me that that this could happen, either by accident, or intentionally.

Sorry to ramble, but I’m sure Bin Laden and his boys would have loved to have had a missile launcher. I’m sure every terror organization and rogue nation would love to have these and have nukes as well.


5 posted on 07/20/2014 2:46:09 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Kaslin

They could greatly reduce the chance by not flying through the middle of a war zone.


6 posted on 07/20/2014 2:47:57 PM PDT by bgill
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No.
They would need military grade or better countermeasures which add weight, reduce available space, reduce range, and reduce carrying capacity.
And even with the best jammers and countermeasures science and tech could possibly provide, planes will still get hit.


7 posted on 07/20/2014 2:51:54 PM PDT by Darksheare (I don't have a copy. one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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“One answer could be “Sky Shield,” a new Israeli-manufactured system that officials say successfully protected a test El Al Airlines Boeing 737 in live-fire missile tests.”

GREAT - the Israelis do live-fire tests on passenger planes. I don’t care how much confidence you have in a system, you don’t put people at that kind of risk. This explains what’s going on in Gaza.
(my imitation of an Israel-hater)


11 posted on 07/20/2014 3:13:02 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Kaslin

Although the article points out that this technology does not work against radar directed missiles, they are trying to convince the public that if we just give the government a little more money, we can be safe from the type of attack that brought down the Malaysian airliners.

Commercial airliners are vulnerable to all air defense weapons systems and they cannot be protected against them all. Avoidance of conflict zones will become essential, raising operating costs and disrupting flight schedules. The days of safe and reliable civilian air travel may be coming to an end. Ignoring world conflicts and pretending that they have nothing to do with us has a number of serious consequences.


14 posted on 07/20/2014 3:25:22 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Kaslin

Yeah, don’t fly in war zones.


15 posted on 07/20/2014 3:35:44 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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Just wait until they drop one here. There is more than children coming across our open unsecured borders. There are many shoulder fired missiles unaccountable.
We know they have the desire, the means and money, and the necessary hate of us. So all that can be missing is a workable plan.


18 posted on 07/20/2014 4:26:53 PM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: Kaslin

Shoulder fired missiles at close range (takeoff or landing) have few countermeasures.

Those weapons have proliferated greatly in the last 5 years.

With our southern border in disarray, those weapons may be flowing over in large numbers.

Remember what 9/11 did to our airline industry and economy?

Now imagine a dozen airliners shot down at the same time while taking off or landing. 3000 dead, no defense possible, our airspace shut down and our economy destroyed.


19 posted on 07/20/2014 4:28:16 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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These jerks knew exactly what they were shooting.


21 posted on 07/20/2014 4:53:07 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Kaslin

TWA 800 wasn’t over a “war zone”.


26 posted on 07/20/2014 7:40:18 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Kaslin
Perhaps the airlines that insist on flying over dangerous territory containing radar guided missiles could hire some Wild Weasels to run interference for them?

It would be cheaper than losing another Boeing 777 and years of lawsuits and payouts.

32 posted on 07/21/2014 8:24:11 AM PDT by Gritty (Obama's governing as president of a Latin American republic, where only the president matters-MSteyn)
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