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Vladimir Putin in firing line after the shot that could change the world
heraldsun.com.au ^ | July 20, 2014 | PATRICK CARLYON

Posted on 07/20/2014 1:10:29 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: elhombrelibre

And FDR let the Russians take a pounding at the hands of the Germans and without that strategy, the Russians would have gone deep into W Europe after the war.


41 posted on 07/20/2014 2:02:28 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Don’t bash the Bieb.


42 posted on 07/20/2014 2:04:33 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: Fear The People

Ohhh wait until that son of a chef sees that one —


43 posted on 07/20/2014 2:05:12 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Putin is a stone-cold ruthless son of a b!tch. As a former KGB Lt. Colonel this guys has what it took to get to the top and you don't get to the top in the Kremlin by being “Mr. Nice Guy’’. The xenophobic, suspicious and ruthless mind set of those inside the Kremlin is something most Americans just don't understand.
44 posted on 07/20/2014 2:05:15 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: elhombrelibre

He doesn’t need to personally order you dead. He just lets his fanboys take care of that at their own time and pleasure. That’s the big analysis I have come too. You can criticize Putin all you want, but don’t expect the dogs in his home to be hospitable, or expect him to have the dogs on leashes.


45 posted on 07/20/2014 2:07:16 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: GeronL

That’s the sad time of day when your enemy has more discipline within his own house than you do.


46 posted on 07/20/2014 2:09:51 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

.....And right now with America being very weak it will only get worse the next two and a half years.


47 posted on 07/20/2014 2:11:27 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Putin would be mindful of the consequences of the 1983 shooting down of Korean Air Lines Flight 007, when 269 passengers died. That error upset the Soviet Union’s Cold War priorities.

Putin has nothing to fear, with wimpy Obummer in charge. In 1983, we had Reagan who went all out against the Soviets and bankrupted them by beefing up our military and creating anti-missile defenses. Now we have Obummer who does the opposite, tearing apart our military while funding the Russians space and missile technology. Different scenario now.

48 posted on 07/20/2014 2:11:48 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: bigbob

You’re talking about a four-time elected president of Russia. Do some Russians dislike him? Sure they do, but his popularity is borderline diety with the Russian populace, and most of his dissent that gets recorded is the kinds of people we would view as nuts. With the Russians, Putin has a very good PR campaign. And what’s sad is that he actually runs the opposing team in a fairly orderly manner, while our nation is controlled by a college fraternity/sorority packed into one.


49 posted on 07/20/2014 2:12:37 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: atc23

....Or that in two years time Americans will get the “wake up and smell the coffee” moment and vote in better and stronger leadership for thw WH.


50 posted on 07/20/2014 2:14:04 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Oliviaforever

Actually, Stalin signed a Pact with Hitler in 1939. Hitler stabbed him in the back in 1941, though they both invaded Poland in 1939. Stalin provided trainloads of war supplies to Hitler right up to days before Hitler invaded Russia in ‘41. Churchill and others warned Stalin, but Stalin didn’t believe them. Hitler did kill many people in Eastern Europe and Russia in a genocidal conquest. FDR, as soon as he could, aided Russia with all types of war equipment. Russia did go deep into Western Europe after the war; they were in Berlin, after all, Czech (remember 1968?)and Hungary (remember 1956). It was a communist ploy to call all of Central and Western Europe Eastern Europe without regard to geography or historic reality. This was done to make Soviet/Russian control over these nations seem all the more natural. But the nations held by the Soviets behind the Iron Curtain were mostly central European ones. Yet Marxist and commies called the captive nations Eastern Europe. Liberal Democrats did too. I see nothing crafty, prescient, or cunning in FDR’s policies. He was if anything the most naïve US President whoever dealt with the Soviets or “Uncle Joe” as he called the butcher Stalin. Roosevelt was very much like Obama in the sense that both of them believed their own charisma would make criminal tyrants swoon to them and bend their ideology.


51 posted on 07/20/2014 2:16:36 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Oliviaforever

In light of the recent Malaysia Airlines tragedies (one missing, one brought down by the Russians) I completed a project I began some time ago to remind us of an earlier Russian involved murder of hundreds of innocents. Will someone please remind obozo that it’s still a jungle out there!
(It’s a short 8 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTgCIrUeuh0&list=UUFDlhK80EdO28R-iGTXiGaw


52 posted on 07/20/2014 2:21:12 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Oliviaforever
And FDR let the Russians take a pounding at the hands of the Germans and without that strategy, the Russians would have gone deep into W Europe after the war.

That's the Soviet propaganda version of WWII. The truth is D-Day was a massive operation that could not have been achieved any sooner than it was. We fought the Germans where we could as soon as we could, starting in North Africa and Italy. We also had to put massive resources into the Battle of the Atlantic, and the air offensive against Germany (not to mention Japan). And the reality is that almost exactly half of Germany's armed forces were deployed on the Western Front, from Greece to Norway, from late 1942 on. We also provided the Soviets with aid, especially 2.5 ton trucks. Without those trucks the huge Soviet offensives of 43-45 would not have been possible.

53 posted on 07/20/2014 2:38:43 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Word is, Putin will invade Ukraine if the final round of sanctions go through.

Since the West will not use military force including nuclear weapons, and Russia is willing to undergo that privation, who do people think will win ?


54 posted on 07/20/2014 2:53:52 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Putin knows that the bottom line is military force. Diplomacy is for weaklings. So until we ramp up and get serious with our military, he will get away with what he wants. First issues - Closing the Border and Missile Defense for America. Support Poland and Western Europe. And STOP Supporting Terrorists. It always bites you in the behind.


56 posted on 07/20/2014 4:25:49 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Russia has nukes and Western economies are underwater in debt as well as beset by a welfare/entitlement State. Russia and China are not that vibrant either but.... $27 per barrel of oil is not happening soon which helped the US tremendously in the mid-80s.

Putin/his successor's legacy is in a good position; especially due to the US military's/Administrative obsessiveness in promoting vaginas/pigment/contrarian ideologies rather than reason and time tested measures.

The same goes for who the electorate pick to represent them. The moderates today who currently are the best we can get, were the poison yesterday. We continue to pick destructive ideologues which does not help either.

57 posted on 07/20/2014 4:27:01 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: elhombrelibre
SEX ORGY IN A MUSEUM - Maybe. Image here.
58 posted on 07/20/2014 5:42:17 PM PDT by caveat emptor (!)
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To: caveat emptor

Well, Museums are not churches, which was the original comment by someone else.


59 posted on 07/20/2014 10:38:26 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Well, Museums are not churches, which was the original comment by someone else.

Yep. And?
60 posted on 07/20/2014 11:19:53 PM PDT by caveat emptor (!)
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