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To: Mase
Well let us start with your claim about the Japaneese: "The Japanese have, for a long, long time, consumed more MSG, per capita, than any other people on earth. Yet they have one of the lowest incidences of obesity on the globe and possess the longest healthy life expectancy of any country on earth. I see a big hole in your flawed logic there, Gomer."

So Gomer feast on this:

Japanese food conjures up images of fish, rice, miso soup and tofu but recently fitness in the Land of the Rising Sun appears to be deteriorating. Unfortunately, an increasing number of Japanese are adopting unhealthy eating patterns and eating like Sumo wrestlers. The Japanese used to eat food high in protein, but over the past few decades there has been a shift towards eating more animal fat, and western fast food. Experts warn that Japanese children are leading increasingly sedentary lives, and foregoing tofu for burgers and instant noodles...

Now as I have read in the study MSG induces one to eat more so then if the Japanese ate more of foods that were not comprised of the bad shit American processed food is full of then naturally they would be less likely to gain weight as opposed to people who ate a western fastfood (highly processed food) diet. BUT now that they are switching to a Western fast food diet that is full of MSG and tend to eat more they are catching up to us.

next this: "Meanwhile, the average American gets only 1 gram of added MSG a day in their diet."

Really? Cuz by what I've been reading in these studies you estimate is way low...

MSG consumption has increased globally in recent years, with recent estimations of the current average daily intake believed to be up to 10 g/day (16). 16. Nakanishi Y., Tsuneyama K., Fujimoto M., Salunga T. L., Nomoto K., An J. L., Takano Y., Iizuka S., Nagata M., Suzuki W., et al. 2008. Monosodium glutamate (MSG): a villain and promoter of liver inflammation and dysplasia. J. Autoimmun. 30: 42–50 [PubMed]

BTW the study referenced above sez the affect of MSG and transfats is causing Non-alcoholic fatty liver disease in a large portion of the populace which BTW two of my doctors cited the same cause but I am sure they are all part of the vast conspiracy to make your industry look bad.

178 posted on 07/20/2014 10:45:37 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Japanese food conjures up images of fish, rice, miso soup and tofu but recently fitness in the Land of the Rising Sun appears to be deteriorating. Unfortunately, an increasing number of Japanese are adopting unhealthy eating patterns and eating like Sumo wrestlers. The Japanese used to eat food high in protein, but over the past few decades there has been a shift towards eating more animal fat, and western fast food. Experts warn that Japanese children are leading increasingly sedentary lives, and foregoing tofu for burgers and instant noodles.

Wow, a higher fat/higher caloric diet (fat contains more than twice the calories, per gram, as carbs and protein) and a sedentary lifestyle is leading to health problems among Japanese children. Who would have thunk it? The horror.

The Japanese have been eating a diet high in MSG for hundreds and hundreds of years while never suffering from obesity. They also continue to enjoy one of the longest life spans of any people. But now you want to blame MSG for higher calorie diets and a sedentary lifesyle. Idiot.

MSG consumption has increased globally in recent years, with recent estimations of the current average daily intake believed to be up to 10 g/day (16). 16. Nakanishi Y., Tsuneyama K., Fujimoto M., Salunga T. L., Nomoto K., An J. L., Takano Y., Iizuka S., Nagata M., Suzuki W., et al. 2008. Monosodium glutamate (MSG): a villain and promoter of liver inflammation and dysplasia. J. Autoimmun. 30: 42–50 [PubMed]

Yes, the current daily intake of glutamate from all sources is estimated to be around 10 grams per day. Of that amount, approximately 90% comes from naturally occurring sources while approximately 10% comes from added sources. Hence, 1 gram per day from added sources.

Trying to use Google as a substitute for an education in life science is about as effective as using Google as a replacement for critical thinking skills. You are failing in both respects. Please stop. Go find something else to occupy your time.

179 posted on 07/21/2014 8:00:28 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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