Yeah, that's the ticket ...
Your computer can crash, but your emails are safe on the servers.
Why isn't someone looking on the servers?
The nonsense that they are only kept for six months on the servers at the IRS is beyond ridiculous.
We have to keep our tax returns for seven YEARS and they only keep emails for six months?!
Why aren't Republicans and Fox News shows, not to mention CONGRESS, pointing out this painfully obvious FACT?
We shouldn't care about her hard drive at all.
Not to mention that hard drives are also backed up daily -- everything on the hard drive can be recovered immediately from the servers.
‘Why is the news media keep reporting it this way, ignoring the FACT that emails are NOT stored on people’s personal computers but on servers which are also backed up.”
Excellent point and beats the poop out of me. Of course, IRS emails may only be stored on the hard drives, they are insular, but your point is VERY well taken.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ~ Voltaire
no more taxes then.
why should we pay for incompetence?
“IRS gives full account of lost Lerner emails. Yeah, that’s the ticket,” said Tommy Flanagan, IRS spokesman in his first gig since appearing as the Pathological Liar on SNL.
If they can’t even say for sure where their equipment is, how can they say for sure where their data is, or isn’t?
The IRS should be judged by it’s own rules.
If I declared my hard drive lost or irrevocably damaged, the IRS would deem me to be guilty of the worst case scenario tax exposure wise.
I say judge those closest to the hard drive fiasco to be guilty of the worst case scenario crime wise.
We need to defund the IRS. Come up with an alternative way of collecting taxes that doesn’t require 97.5% of the IRS staff, implement it, and be done with it.
Obviously, because they have been told that these emails are not to become public. One excuse is as good as another...
Yeah, that's the ticket ...
Are they admitting they have her old drive?
If so, they are lying about it being irecoverable.
If it is irrecoverable they De-Mil’d the drive.
That is, it was written over at least 7 times using various methods.
“We smashed it and the others up good”
They need to Stalinsplain the effort by Ms. Lerner to skirt transparency in this matter by seeking instant messaging (and other?) non-archived means of communication.
The EPA is on record illegally using private email accounts to conspire against political enemies.
How about the IRS?
* ALINSKY’S RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)
There oughta be a law — Oh, wait, there is.
The “full account” is to restate the excuse?
what a ridiculously deceptive headline...
“Honest teacher! The dog ate my homework, and he puked some of it back up. But it must have tasted good to him, because he went and ate seven other kid’s homework.”
Anyone involved in this conspiracy is a felon.
Anyone who believes the story is a fool.
Anyone who has seen federal contractor’s requirements for data security, access, backup, etc. knows the redundancy and audit trail that are required, just as Uncle Sam requires them of himself - mostly because redundancy of equipment and procedures equals redundancy of staffing i.e. more federal workers to vote Democrat.
The point is that the fed’s own standard practices make this story even more preposterous.
Some clever Congressman should solicit IT volunteers to recover the e-mails the IRS says it can’t or won’t produce. The volunteers will sign non-disclosures since the IRS will predictably cite taxpayer privacy. When a flood of consultants much smarter and motivated than the fed’s cube critters are set loose on the project let’s see what happens next.
Technically a hard drive that crashes is destroyed, NOT wiped and recycled.
Where emails are stored depends on the architecture of the email system. Typical consumer email systems which provide web access store the emails on the server. Systems using IMAP or Microsoft's MAPI protocols typically keep the emails on the server. But on systems using the POP3 protocol emails are downloaded from the mail server to the system running the mail reader and are either immediately or some time later deleted from the server.
So if Ms. Lerner and her fellow IRS employees used POP3 protocol mail readers, then it would be possible that the mail did not exist on any server within a few days of the receipt of the email. Of course either backups of the local email files, or some other email retention strategy should have been in place as required by law. And the idea that the IT folks in the IRS are so inept as to not have backups of their systems is while possible, not likely.
Needless to say both the decision to destroy the hard drive's contents, and to delete or write over backups once an investigation was underway seems highly irregular.
“Under oath” don’t mean squat to establishment government bureaucrats or RATs but I repeat myself.