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To: greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Colofornian; ejonesie22; Elsie; Godzilla; Holly_P; MHGinTN; narses; ...

Could the Mormon Church excommunicate ...

"A church disciplinary council is mandatory in cases of murder, incest, child abuse, apostasy, serious transgressions while holding a prominent church position and predatory behavior.

Serious transgressions, which the Handbook defines as "deliberate and major offense[s] against morality," include but are not limited to "attempted murder, forcible rape, sexual abuse, spouse abuse, intentional serious physical injury of others, adultery ... deliberate abandonment of family responsibilities, robbery, burglary, theft, embezzlement, sale of illegal drugs, fraud, perjury and false swearing."

A better question is would the Mormon Church excommunicate a leader guilty of those crimes. Their history provides a clear answer.

Joseph Smith held a prominent church position and was a murderer (Missouri Mormon Wars), attempted murderer (Lilburn Boggs), rapist and adulterer (see Todd Compton's In Sacred Loneliness for a list of at least 33 plural wives in addition to Emma and a description of the techniques he used to seduce them), pedophile (at least six underage plural wives), robber and thief (Kirtland Safety Society, Missouri raids, Nauvoo land flips ... among others), who committed incest and child abuse (Fanny Alger) and false swearing ("I'm greater than Jesus" ... in addition to dozens of documented lies), etc. The Saints never called him before a church disciplinary council.

Brigham Young held a prominent church position and was a mass murderer (Illinois Mormon Wars, Utah War of 1857, Mountain Meadow Massacre, Aiken Party Massacre, Blood Atonement), adulterer (at least 55 plural wives), and robber (taking of land, "sale" of property and water rights, 10 percent silent partner on hundreds of deals), etc. The Saints never called him before a church disciplinary council.

Based on their record, I predict the LDS Church will never drop the nuclear bomb on Dirty Harry ... unless and until his cost (measured in terms of embarrassment and loss of membership) outweighs his benefit ... which, given his position and ability to distribute government favors such as doling out cash and calling off the dogs, is pretty close to nil.

58 posted on 07/17/2014 3:01:25 PM PDT by Zakeet (If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it - Mark Twain)
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To: Zakeet

“Based on their record, I predict the LDS Church will never drop the nuclear bomb on Dirty Harry ... unless and until his cost (measured in terms of embarrassment and loss of membership) outweighs his benefit ... which, given his position and ability to distribute government favors such as doling out cash and calling off the dogs, is pretty close to nil.”

Correctamundo! But lets be honest, all the rest of the “churches” do the same thing when it comes for high-rollers who don’t follow their faith. And right now both the Catholics and the Mormons are licking their chops over all these “children” flooding into our country, particularly the Catholics because most of them are Catholic. They get their members any way they can.
What I want all of them (the churches) to tell us us just “how many illegal immigrants is enough! When has America “done enough for the worlds’ disadvantaged?” Do we follow their “teachings” and just let America fail in the name of doing what’s right for the poor and disadvantaged? How about India? Bangladesh? Eastern Europe? How many Muzzies is “enough” here? Come on churches, just tell us!!!!
Oh, I forgot, you are too busy waging wars around the world to answer this question.


69 posted on 07/17/2014 6:37:44 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Zakeet; narses

You pinged NARSES???

Does he have a cerealbox for THIS meme?


80 posted on 07/18/2014 4:27:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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