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Malaysian passenger plane crashes in Ukraine near Russian border: Ifax
Reuters ^ | 17 July 2014 | Alissa de Carbonne

Posted on 07/17/2014 8:24:22 AM PDT by CMB_polarization

A Malaysian passenger airliner with 295 people on board crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border, Interfax cited an aviation industry source as saying on Thursday.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aviation; crash; malaysia; malaysianairlines; mh17; mh370; reset; russia; ukraine
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To: McGruff

261 posted on 07/17/2014 10:00:10 AM PDT by caww
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To: 1rudeboy

See Post 66 on this thread


262 posted on 07/17/2014 10:00:16 AM PDT by Agog
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To: Rutles4Ever

No link here. What does it state?


263 posted on 07/17/2014 10:00:40 AM PDT by BigIsleGal (Wake Me Up When the Stupid Wears Off)
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To: 1rudeboy
everyone should feel free to speculate, but posting speculation as fact? In order to spin the outcome

I don't know what you are getting at either. Where in my posts did I state what I was saying was fact. This is a breaking story, and anything, repeat anything that is said at this point is speculative. I think most Freepers understand that concept.

264 posted on 07/17/2014 10:01:06 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: BigIsleGal

Fox showing dead bodies...


265 posted on 07/17/2014 10:01:15 AM PDT by Dog (Founding member of the Osama Bin Laden was alive the whole time club..)
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To: Dog

...”Wrong I saw the twitter post up”...

Twitter is not the best source as we know...in other events dingbats even claim responsibility....wait and see is better.


266 posted on 07/17/2014 10:02:17 AM PDT by caww
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To: All

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — The Kremlin said Thursday that President Barack Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed the Malaysian Airliner crash in their phone call, according to Reuters news agency. White House spokesman Josh Earnest had earlier said Obama and Putin talked at Moscow’s request, about new sanctions announced by the U.S. against Russia on Wednesday. But the Kremlin said that, during the call, information from air traffic controllers about the crash became available.


267 posted on 07/17/2014 10:03:02 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: caww

The route history, MAS17 (from Am to Kuala) and MAS16 (from Kuala to Am) have very little Variation over the Ukraine (previous days)


268 posted on 07/17/2014 10:03:08 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: 1rudeboy; tcrlaf

If true, someone needs to find those tweets (or whatever), and make sure they are not flushed down the hole.


People are. The Russians are scrubbing and spinning like crazy but google cache is forever.

Hopefully, our own Freeper tclraf will join the thread to confirm that the rebels do have a Buk-1 capable of shooting this airliner down. He was quite certain of that fact the other day when it was a Ukrainian plane shot down.


269 posted on 07/17/2014 10:03:16 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: catfish1957
My comment wasn't directed at you specifically, just at the regular pro-Putin modus operandi of some of our more notorious neo-Bolshevik FReepers.
270 posted on 07/17/2014 10:03:41 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: caww

Horrible...just heard report on Patriot of fatalities/injuries on the ground.


271 posted on 07/17/2014 10:04:09 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: lodi90

the case is not closed at all. I guarantee you that if the Russians shot down a civilian passenger plane they’d be leaning on the separatists to take responsibility for it. Let’s wait for the intelligence analysis shall we?


272 posted on 07/17/2014 10:04:17 AM PDT by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: 1rudeboy

Keep in mind the Putinistas here and elsewhere have been crowing for the past three weeks that they have BUK systems. Most likely Putin did not personally order a passenger jet shot down. But by providing such sophisticated weaponry to his soldiers in Ukraine, Putin must bear the blame for this tragedy.


273 posted on 07/17/2014 10:04:18 AM PDT by Agog
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To: Mat_Helm

This was out of control rebels.


Out of control terrorists using Russian heavy weapons and commanded by a FSB colonel. Yeah right.


274 posted on 07/17/2014 10:04:20 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: caww

What part of:

“An adviser to the Ukrainian interior ministry told the news agency the Boeing 777 was brought down by a Buk ground-to-air missile.”

Do you not understand?


275 posted on 07/17/2014 10:04:37 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: caww
You got it all figured out.......we shall wait for your future pronouncements.as to what to think...care on.
276 posted on 07/17/2014 10:04:42 AM PDT by Dog (Founding member of the Osama Bin Laden was alive the whole time club..)
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To: catfish1957
...”anything that is said at this point is speculative. I think most Freepers understand that concept”....

Best to recognize those who are not interested in finding the facts, rather like to stir up trouble and bash posters. There's several who get on threads as this and enjoy purposely provoking for their own sick entertainment.

277 posted on 07/17/2014 10:05:12 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Presidents Obama and Putin did briefly discuss the Malaysian jet that crashed in Ukraine during morning call ..via Fox News

Obama's probably trying to figure out how to frame this as "right wing extremists".

278 posted on 07/17/2014 10:07:00 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: bigbob

That’s what Ukraine’s Gov. is saying....we all know Keiv will protect their own just as Russia and the USA does in instances as this. I’ll wait thank you.....


279 posted on 07/17/2014 10:07:43 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
It has nothing to do with judgment. This was on a standard flight plan approved by all the countries on the route. There is a daily flight from Amsterdam to KL along the same route. I am sure there are many commercial airline flights over Ukraine daily.

At 33,000 feet, there should be no confusion that this was a military flight. MH 17 was flying its normal, daily route.

280 posted on 07/17/2014 10:08:44 AM PDT by kabar
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