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Assault-weapons ban still goal for Illinois governor
SLPD ^ | 7-14-14 | AP

Posted on 07/14/2014 6:40:28 AM PDT by Paul46360

CHICAGO • llinois Gov. Pat Quinn is once again calling for legislation that would ban the sale of assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines.

The Democrat addressed the issue at a news conference on Sunday. He spoke in the Morgan Park neighborhood — a South Side Chicago community that's been affected by gun violence.

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: ban; governor; illinois; weapons

1 posted on 07/14/2014 6:40:28 AM PDT by Paul46360
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To: Paul46360

Quinn may want to rethink this policy with the feds sending so many illegal alien gangbangers to Illinois.


2 posted on 07/14/2014 6:44:54 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: Paul46360
Pat Quinn is nothing more than a toady of the Chicago Democrat machine. They prove every date how well Chicago's Gun Free Zone works in this state. Outside Cook (home to Chicago) County and Sangamon (home to Springfield) County, gun control is dead in the other 100 counties of the state. With such a spectacular failure on his hands, Quinn keeps demonstrating his stupidity.
3 posted on 07/14/2014 6:53:31 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Paul46360
He spoke in the Morgan Park neighborhood — a South Side Chicago community that's been affected by gun violence.

Of which violence precisely zero percent has been by the use of "assault" weapons.

4 posted on 07/14/2014 6:59:37 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Paul46360

Sure, Guv’nor, go after the law-abiding and ignore the guilty gun-abusing criminal offenders. Heaven forfend your minions risk injury engaging those who misuse firearms criminally. We can see your proposed laws are designed to disarm only the easiest of civilian targets. You and your ilk will not stop until America is disarmed and forcibly compliant to your dictates. Good luck, schmuck...you wish you had our numbers!


5 posted on 07/14/2014 7:00:50 AM PDT by W. (Democrats need the 'poor' to justify their political existence. What'd LBJ say? "I'll have them ni..)
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To: Paul46360

Assault weapons? Who has assault weapons? We shoot ourselves in the foot letting no-nothings run wild with incorrect language.


6 posted on 07/14/2014 7:08:42 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: Paul46360

Black gangsters are running wild in the streets killing each other with illegally obtained hand guns. Why’s that so hard to say?


7 posted on 07/14/2014 7:11:17 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: JimRed
Of which violence precisely zero percent has been by the use of "assault" weapons.

Irrelevant even if true.

The solution to violent crime will NEVER be found in hare-brained disarmament schemes. It will be found primarily in an armed and alert citizenry, and secondarily in a sane, well directed police force.

Funny how the leftists never want either of these.

It's not about guns, it's about CONTROL.

8 posted on 07/14/2014 7:14:04 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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There are only three major types of weapons:

1. Combat
2. Hunting
3. Competition

There is no such thing as an assault weapon.


9 posted on 07/14/2014 7:51:03 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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"There is no such thing as an assault weapon."

You are wrong. The U.S. military decades ago defined an "Assault Rifle" as a carbine length rifle which fires an intermediate sized cartridge (between pistol and rifle length) and had fully automatic capability as well as a semi-automatic mode.

Liberal politicians and the main stream media hijacked the terminology during the early 1990's and crafted a definition that was mostly based on perceived scary features such bayonet lugs, flash hiders, pistol grips, etc. That definition was incorporated into the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban. Whether that contrived, emotion based definition survived legally after the ban was not extended beyond 10 years is open to debate.

But, in this instance, perception must be treated as reality. An overwhelming majority of Americans believe that an AR-15 is an "Assault Weapon".

Please post facts on this forum or label opinion as such.

10 posted on 07/14/2014 8:18:22 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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"There is no such thing as an assault weapon."

You are wrong. The U.S. military decades ago defined an "Assault Rifle" as a carbine length rifle which fires an intermediate sized cartridge (between pistol and rifle length) and had fully automatic capability as well as a semi-automatic mode.

Care to post the link where any US armed force has that defined as their officially assigned terminology? I'm on .MIL (not at this moment) and can't find it anywhere.

11 posted on 07/14/2014 8:44:40 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: USCG SimTech
Care to post the link where any US armed force has that defined as their officially assigned terminology? I'm on .MIL (not at this moment) and can't find it anywhere.

Here is the post of the factual history of the terminology and you will not the federal govt has no part in it. Never mind the military.

Please post only facts and label your opinions as such.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

12 posted on 07/14/2014 8:53:11 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Buffalo Head

“But, in this instance, perception must be treated as reality. An overwhelming majority of Americans believe that an AR-15 is an “Assault Weapon”.”

And the problem is abetted by the fact that the gun in question is called an “AR-15,” where the term “AR” is erroneously put out as “Assault Rifle.” My recollection is that the designation “AR” stands for “Armalite Rife” for the original manufacturer. Now AR is just like “Kleenex.”


13 posted on 07/14/2014 9:35:53 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: USCG SimTech
As the United States Defense Department’s Defense Intelligence Agency book "Small Arms Identification and Operation Guide" explains, “assault rifles” are “short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges.”[21]

In other words, assault rifles are battlefield rifles which can fire automatically.[22]

Weapons capable of fully automatic fire, including assault rifles, have been regulated heavily in the United States since the National Firearms Act of 1934.[23]

Taking possession of such weapons requires paying a $200 federal transfer tax and submitting to an FBI background check, including ten-print fingerprints.[24] [21]

Defense Intelligence Agency, Small Arms Identification and Operation Guide - Eurasian Communist Countries 105 (Washington: Government Printing Office, 1988). [22]

Because the guns are "selective fire," the shooter can flip a selector switch to choose between automatic and semiautomatic fire, sometimes with the additional option of tri-burst fire.

[23] National Firearms Act, ch. 757, 48 Stat. 1236 (1934).

[24] 26 U.S.C. §§ 5811-5812, 5845 (1988). As of May 1986, production of new automatics (including assault rifles) for the civilian market became completely illegal, although there have been some disputes among the lower federal courts about the constitutionality of the prohibition. SeeFarmer v. Higgins, 907 F.2d 1041 (11th Cir. 1990), rev'g 1:87-CV-440-JOF (1989), cert. denied, 498 U.S. 1047 (1991); but cf. United States v. Dalton, 990 F.2d 1166 (10th Cir. 1993); United States v. Rock Island Armory, Inc., 773 F. Supp 117 (C.D. Ill.), app. dism'd, 1991 U.S. App. LEXIS 19505 (7th Cir. Aug. 13, 1991).

NRA link, here: http://www.nraila.org/glossary.aspx defines "Assault Rifles"

Also see http://gunfax.com/aw.htm

I post facts. Please do likewise.

Then you find yourself in a hole, it is best to stop digging.

14 posted on 07/14/2014 7:27:01 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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