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“Look there are two different immigrants. One that crosses the southern boarder. That type is not valuable to many business. Certainly not public companies that would pay a price to use them.”

Tell that to Tyson!

‘But business care mostly about computer programmers. And there are almost no American programmers.’

I don't know about that. It seems to me that I have heard of a great deal of programmers that have trained their own replacements from China and India.

As for the STEM. There are millions of private and Parochial school trained students who are more than proficient in Science, Technology and Math when they leave High School. I knew many that finish college and went to work for a big company only to end up being shuffled out the door in a decade to make way for a cheaper, younger model who doesn't seem to demand time for kids and home life.

H1B1 is legalized slavery. Businesses basically hold the Visa holder hostage. The Chinese ones are all here to pilfer knowledge to take back to the land of Mao and use that knowledge against us in the future. If they don't come back their family get hurt.

I was in Cupertino a few months ago at a meeting with Apple. Beautiful facilities with 10 asian folks representing Apple and two Americans. The Americans were the lawyer and the marketing guy. All these asians were extremely well paid with great facilities, free food, they owned great cars. I saw no slavery. I also saw no technical Americans either.

I know the farmers have a different gig. They can hire migrant workers with no IDs. I think the meat processing plants do it too. Not sure why they get away with it.

But those are not tech jobs. I was referring to tech jobs. Those are the immigrants we need.

“Look there are two different immigrants. One that crosses the southern boarder. That type is not valuable to many business. Certainly not public companies that would pay a price to use them.”

Tell that to Tyson!

‘But business care mostly about computer programmers. And there are almost no American programmers.’

I don't know about that. It seems to me that I have heard of a great deal of programmers that have trained their own replacements from China and India.

As for the STEM. There are millions of private and Parochial school trained students who are more than proficient in Science, Technology and Math when they leave High School. I knew many that finish college and went to work for a big company only to end up being shuffled out the door in a decade to make way for a cheaper, younger model who doesn't seem to demand time for kids and home life.

H1B1 is legalized slavery. Businesses basically hold the Visa holder hostage. The Chinese ones are all here to pilfer knowledge to take back to the land of Mao and use that knowledge against us in the future. If they don't come back their family get hurt

Bravo !

Use of illegals and guest workers is nothing more than the use of neo-slavery to destroy the American middle class.

A series of myths, half-truths, and conditions existing in the past have been used to justify this neo-slavery, including, but not limited to:

The myths of 'good' immigrants and jobs Americans can't and won't do.

The fact that there always have been some who abuse disability and UE and other portions of the safety net.

The fact that once upon a time if you want to work you could find a job.