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To: poinq

Oldest game you employers play. Select American candidates from no name schools vs foreign born students from great colleges. Have a test, see the results, American candidates suck and foreign ones are qualified. I got students from great tech schools whose resumes are ignored while foreign born students from the same tech schools are snatched up for next level interviews. Maybe at your level you prefer American workers vs the paperwork of H-1B, but someone in HR thinks otherwise. Situation got so abusive that Computer World (a pro IT mag) had to write an article on the subject. I think Congress should investigate this so call skill/tech gap between US and foreign candidates. Colleges claim US leads in higher education and thousands of foreign students flock to US vs home country. About 2/3 of the students do not grad or change majors. Top US colleges are tough. Top of the line US school charge huge tuitions and hold high reputations yet their IT grads have the same unemployment rate as no name colleges???!!!! So either corporations are lying about the quality of US grads or the top US tech colleges are lying about the quality of their high price education.


114 posted on 07/12/2014 11:24:09 AM PDT by Fee ( Big Gov and Big Business are Enemies of America)
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To: Fee

If you go to any top engineering school or school with a good engineering department, they have career days. Lots of HR people flock to those schools to pick the engineers and Computer Science grads.

At Northwestern and many other schools, they have a separate career day for tech students (engineers and computer science). The companies actually sponsor the career day, buying free food and giving away gifts to the prospects. These American techies are offered signing bonuses and free travel (flights, hotel, and good diners) to visit the companies. English grads don’t even hear about this career day.

I was just at RPI, they had a post on their Union bulletin board. It had the average, high and low of their 2013 grads 6 months after graduation. Every engineering major was over $60K for an average salary. Programmers were the highest with $80K starting salary. Virtually all the grads had jobs or were in grad school or peace corp. It was like 98%.

When you hire programmers from India or China. They have normally learned to program at Indian or Chinese colleges. They don’t learn anything here. The college visa is just to get here and time to learn English. They mock our colleges as being far beneath them.

Face it, calculus is required to learn physics. Engineering requires physics. Most high schools don’t teach calculus in American schools until senior year in high school. And most Americans don’t even take that. So they don’t really take physics in high school. In the rest of the world Calculus is taught to all college bound high schoolers three years earlier. We even finagled physics so you take a physics class without calculus. Thats like taking basketball without a hoop.

Chinese and Indians are not smarter than us. But their top 1% is 33% larger than our top 1%. In each country there are over 10 million people in the top 1%. Only 250K can get into this country from anywhere in the world a year through the H1B program.

America should take these people if they want to come here. They don’t take jobs. They create jobs. One foreign programmer creates product manger jobs, tester jobs, call center jobs, training jobs. And several other jobs like sales which foreigners can’t do.


119 posted on 07/15/2014 7:23:42 AM PDT by poinq
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