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The Truth About Iraq (And why it matters)
The Weekly Standard ^ | July 21, 2014 | Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney

Posted on 07/11/2014 9:26:46 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 07/11/2014 9:26:46 AM PDT by Kaslin
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We are watching the rise of potentially the gravest threat to our national security in a generation, one that surpasses even the threat we faced on 9/11.


Interesting.

My tagline back after 9/11 was something like “Islam today is agreater threat to the world than Nazism was in the early 30’s. But time marches on. I see Iraq as Poland of September of 1939.

And I posted this on the 20th of last month:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3170217/posts

It explains why I think this will get worse, much worse, before it gets better.


2 posted on 07/11/2014 9:40:09 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Kaslin
the rest of the article...don't think we have to excerpt

These types of operations are a critical tool in the war on terror. They stand in stark contrast to this administration’s actions in Benghazi, for example. Rather than move quickly to uncover critical intelligence and capture or kill those behind the attacks, the Obama team spent 18 months building a legal case before they moved to capture Ahmed Abu Khattala. He has now been read Miranda rights.

The real proof that things were in good shape in Iraq when President Obama took office is that his administration set about claiming credit for the situation. Vice President Biden memorably predicted in 2010 that Iraq “will be one of the great achievements of this administration.” President Obama repeatedly asserted, “We are leaving behind a sovereign, stable, and self-reliant Iraq.”

President Obama spent a good deal of time during his reelection campaign in 2012 claiming to have fulfilled his 2008 promise to “end” the war. His campaign speeches included lines like: “I told you I’d end the war in Iraq and I did”; and “Four years ago, I promised to end the war in Iraq and we did”; and “We’ve succeeded in our strategy to end the war.” With the rise of ISIS in Iraq, that strategy isn’t looking so good.

White House credit-taking has predictably morphed into blame-shifting. In a move that must be uncomfortable even for a president unburdened by a strong allegiance to fact, the administration now claims President Obama was simply implementing George Bush’s policy when he withdrew all U.S. forces.

When President Obama isn’t blaming George Bush for forcing him to remove the troops, he is blaming Nuri al-Maliki for the lack of a stay-behind agreement. Maliki certainly shares the blame for the disaster in Iraq today, but the fact is our commanders on the ground asked for a stay-behind force of nearly 20,000. President Obama said no. They came back and asked for 10,000. President Obama said no. He was willing to leave no more than 3,500 troops in place, a force too small to carry out the mission. Then, just to be sure Maliki wouldn’t accept our terms, President Obama insisted any stay-behind agreement would have to be submitted to the Iraqi parliament for approval. He made sure Maliki, al Qaeda, Iran, and the rest of the world knew we weren’t serious about defending the gains we had won at such a high cost of American lives and treasure.

In spite of all we have seen, President Obama stubbornly clings to the quaint notion that wars end because he says they do. And even as tragedy and terror engulf Iraq, he insists he will follow exactly the same course of action in Afghanistan.

The rise of ISIS and the resurgence of radical Islamic terror groups across the Middle East present a grave threat to the national security of the United States. The situation is dire, and defeating this threat requires immediate, sustained action across multiple fronts.

In Iraq, we should provide military support in the form of trainers, special operations forces, an intelligence architecture, and airpower to aid the Iraqi military in its counteroffensive against ISIS. ISIS does not recognize the border between Syria and Iraq, and we can’t either. We have to strike ISIS in their sanctuaries, staging areas, command centers, and lines of communication on both sides of the border. We also need to do everything possible to defend Jordan against ISIS.

The Iraqi government is flawed in critical ways, which must be addressed once ISIS is on the ropes. We cannot allow the need for political reconciliation to prevent us from doing what is necessary now to defeat the threat to the United States. By insisting on political reconciliation as a precondition to significant U.S. support for the defeat of ISIS, the Obama administration is ensuring the threat to America will grow. Each day we dither is another day ISIS is able to solidify its gains. The longer it operates with impunity, the more effective its recruitment. ISIS is using its success on the battlefield to rally thousands of foreign fighters to join the effort in Iraq. Every day we wait means the battle that must eventually be fought will be harder and more costly.

As we work to defeat ISIS in Iraq and prevent the growth of a terrorist state in the heart of the Middle East, we must also move globally to get back on offense in the war on terror. This means, first, recognizing and admitting the size and scope of the threat we face. Al Qaeda is not “diminished,” nor is “the tide of war receding.” We remain at war, and law enforcement mechanisms will not keep us safe.

Second, we need to reverse the dramatic decline in defense spending we’ve seen in the last six years. A nation at war cannot hope to prevail if only 4 of its 42 Army brigades are combat ready. We need to make restoration of our military and a reversal of the disastrous defense budget cuts one of our top priorities.

Third, we need to halt the drawdown of our troops in Afghanistan. The tragedy, terror, and chaos in Iraq will be repeated in Afghanistan if we abandon the fight there. Pulling out all U.S. troops without regard to conditions on the ground or the recommendations of our commanders will ensure a victory for America’s enemies.

Fourth, we need to reassure our friends and allies in the Middle East that America will not abandon them. We need to demonstrate through increased intelligence cooperation, military assistance, training, joint exercises, and economic support that we know they are on the front lines of the war on terror. We should immediately provide the Apache helicopters and other military support the government of Egypt needs to fight the al Qaeda insurgency in the Sinai.

Fifth, we should be clear that we recognize a nuclear-armed Iran is an existential threat to Israel and to other nations in the region, as well. We should refuse to accept any “deal” with the Iranians that allows them to continue to spin centrifuges and enrich uranium. In the cauldron of the Middle East today, accepting a false deal—as the Obama administration seems inclined to do—will only ensure Iran attains a nuclear weapon and spark a nuclear arms race across the region. The Iranians should know without a doubt that we will not allow that to happen, and that we will take military action if necessary to stop it.

America must win this war. We won’t defeat our enemies by retreating. We won’t win if we adopt a false narrative about the past, fail to learn the lessons of history, or seek security in disengagement and isolationism. We will only defeat our enemies if we are clear-eyed about the threat and have the will to do what it takes for as long as it takes—until the war is won.

3 posted on 07/11/2014 9:45:17 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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I did not actually excerpt the article, I just made it shorter. Only 300 words can be posted as an excerpt, or 50% if it is a short article


4 posted on 07/11/2014 9:50:06 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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I didn't think NR was on the excerpt list, but the article was so terrific, I wanted to make sure it was all here to be read!

thanks for posting it!

5 posted on 07/11/2014 9:56:40 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: Axeslinger

It isn’t, otherwise I would have gotten the notification that it had to be excerpted. I just shortened it on my own and you’re welcome :)


6 posted on 07/11/2014 10:05:19 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Love it that Cheney includes those quotes from Kerry, Clinton, Pelosi, etc.

This is a wonderful column. Thx.


7 posted on 07/11/2014 10:05:24 AM PDT by what's up
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To: cuban leaf
this will get worse, much worse, before it gets better.

And even worse than all that if the kenyan seriously responds in Iraq. He will make it worse. How can any intervention by this president improve anything? He is a Moslem and his sympathies lie with the Moslems and their Caliphate. His actions, whether military in Iraq or quasi military in promoting invasion of the US from the south must promote Islam. The major block standing in the way of an explosion of Islam is the United States. The most powerful Moslem in the world is attending to the removal of that blockage as his first priority.

8 posted on 07/11/2014 10:11:24 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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“Those who say the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a mistake are essentially saying we would be better off if Saddam Hussein were still in power.”

And we’re right. It would be better for Saddam, Mubarak, Musharraf, Gaddafi, et el were still in power. More Americans would be alive now and fewer would be about to die. As soon as 0 won in November, Bush and Cheney should have carpet bombed Iraq into the stone age, knowing 0 would throw away everything we fought for.


9 posted on 07/11/2014 10:16:34 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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Frankly, my position is that Ronald Reagan at his prime could be resurrected and take over and not get us out of this mess. It’s beyond a human solution at this point.


10 posted on 07/11/2014 10:19:36 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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It’s not Peoria and it’s not beyond a solution. It may take 10 years but Syria and Iraq will settle out much like the Yugoslavian regions settled. Independent or federated states based upon ethnicity and religion.

Everyone saw this coming. It is not a surprise or incomprehensible -except to people who shouldn’t be contemplating such things to begin with.


11 posted on 07/11/2014 10:31:35 AM PDT by Justa
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But this is not the only thing going on. In my “interesting times” piece I compared it to Poland of 1939. A lot of people saw that coming too.


12 posted on 07/11/2014 10:40:36 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf

I say we deal with ISIS/Iraq through a policy of preemptive reprisal. The same with Afghanistan.

In addition to that, the intelligence and special communities should be running covert ops designed to kill any threat that comes up in Iraq/Afghanistan.

Finally, using the covert forces of other nations who are also enemies of Iraq/Isis and Afghanistan and whose interest might parallel our own at any given moment is a simple matter of clandestine coordination.


13 posted on 07/11/2014 10:47:25 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: what's up

It’s a great piece of work and it’s disgusting that Bush leaves the heavy lifting to Cheney. Cheney would have done it during their terms but Bush clearly collared him. Bush’s silence is way past dissapointing.


14 posted on 07/11/2014 12:44:51 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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Two things:

My son’s squad (part of the 299th Army Reserve MBR Engineers) on the east bank of the Euphrates River at Hindaya (Objective Peach), found Chemical Warfare green suits in abandoned Iraqi military depots/caches. (April 2003).

Other units found chemical shells, chemical components, and a lot of Cyanide powder (enought to kill tens of thousands of people) scattered throughout Iraq. Some even found MIGS buried under a decoy layer of destroyed aircraft.

Secondly, an argument that most, even on our side, forget, is that Saddam was part of a tripartite (or nuclear tripod) consisting of Iran, Iraq and Syria that, in the future (which would be NOW), posed a “clear and present danger” to Israel, Jordan Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Lebanon, and other regional countries, as well as to the US.

Iran is working on a nuclear weapons program. Israel destroyed Iraq’s Osirik reactor in the early 1980’s, an weapons reactor that most didn’t know existed. Then Israel destroyed the newer Syrian nuclear facilities a couple years ago in Syria (again, the US didn’t know that they existed).

This was the “NUCLEAR TRIUMVIRATE” who could have dominated or destroyed the Middle East, causing millions of deaths and wrecking countries.

Israel did some of the necessary preemptive work in taking down the legs of this “NUCLEAR TRIPOD” and the US/Allies took down the Iraqi leg-in-formation.

Someday we will learn what those truck convoys took from Iraq to Syria at the beginning of hostilities or just before it started.

Anyone want to take a bet as to what was in those trucks? It wasn’t potato chips.


15 posted on 07/11/2014 3:55:44 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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You don’t pull out the big guns until there is real peril.

Cheney is now vocal. Saw Andy Card the other day.

Bush will be vocal when it’s necessary.


16 posted on 07/11/2014 5:13:23 PM PDT by what's up
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While I sincerely wish your optimistic confidence in our Intelligence and Special Ops communities was justified, I don't perceive that to be the case.

I can hope I am wrong.

Wishes and hopes won't change what is happening, and what will happen next.

The lunatics are now in charge of the asylum.

17 posted on 07/11/2014 6:19:06 PM PDT by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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Until the Congress is prepared to declare war, I’m all in for reprisals as the right way to handle these rogue regimes. The advantage of having a head of this movement, this caliphate, is that the head can be cut off....again and again until they get the message: “Don’t tread on me”.

I agree that our current administration is a disaster, but even with that, better they screw up a reprisal than a war.


18 posted on 07/11/2014 6:56:37 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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“It is undisputed, and has been confirmed repeatedly in Iraqi government documents captured after the invasion, that Saddam had deep, longstanding, far-reaching relationships with terrorist organizations, including al Qaeda and its affiliates.”

I have never seen anything to support this claim. In fact the studies I’ve seen on Islamic terrorism have never found even one Iraqi as a member but there have been plenty of our ‘allies’ the Saudis involved.

Saddam was about power, not Islam. His hero was Joseph Stalin right down to the mustache. The Ba’athist Party was a socialist outfit and its slogan was ‘Unity, Liberty, Socialism’. Moreover Saddam had Christian Iraqis in high positions in his own government something an al Qaeda supporter would never do.

Saddam was a typical political thug. His WMDs posed a danger to what he saw as his real threat and that was domestic rivals. But his collection of poison gas didn’t threaten us. He couldn’t even defeat Iran after 10 years of trying but somehow we are supposed to believe that he posed a threat to us, far stronger and much more distant.


19 posted on 07/11/2014 7:51:26 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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bfl


20 posted on 07/12/2014 11:49:30 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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