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To: Hostage
There have been plenty of postings at FR which oppose Article V because the Left would repeal the 2A and impose a Marxist Utopia.

That BS came from the Bircher website, which listed dozens of leftist organizations supposedly in support of Article V. I put on a hazmat suit and visited ten or so of the most prominent sites, and not one supported Article V.

The Left doesn't need a convention. Their acolytes in government have rewritten the constitution these past hundred years without the hassle of a convention.

Good on you for pointing out Schlafly’s deception regarding George Mason. There is no substitute for real knowledge of our constitutional history. The Left certainly doesn't know, and conservatives can handily trip them up when they display their ignorance.

18 posted on 07/09/2014 1:02:42 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V)
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To: Jacquerie

Later on Schlafly’s entire argument falls apart. It is obvious that he believes Art. V is anachronistic and should be ignored if not removed from the Constitution.

I don’t doubt Schlafly is sincere about fighting the Left on issues but he is oblivious to the fact that he is fighting on their turf and is losing.

It is painfully obvious now especially with the collusion of democrat and GOPe forces in Mississippi that the people are not faithfully represented in their national government. Elections are controlled and manipulated now to the satisfaction of the ruling class aristocracy. The trajectory will only get worse unless the people use what means given them in the Constitution. That Schlafly can’t see this is awful as we witness people like him surrendering a strategic tool.

We need only pass one amendment via a COS to put the ruling class aristocracy on notice that their game is up. Conservatives hold both state chambers in 26 states. There is no way a leftist cabal is going to get anything past conservatives.

The only way a leftist cabal can use a COS in the future is if they can control 38 states fully. America is not so far gone yet but maybe so in one or two more generations. If we pass amendments that make it so difficult for leftists to complete their quest for controlling the proletariat, then we can set them back a hundred years or more. That’s why a COS is so important. Because Washington DC will never do it, the courts will never do it and our political parties will not do it; will not reverse the march to its ultimate totalitarian end.

We can no longer rely on the integrity of elections. Our electoral process is compromised and soon no longer available to us. I witnessed firsthand an election stolen 10 years ago by democrats and hard core leftists; actually communists. People need to wake up that the Left aims to control election offices in critical counties that can swing elections. They are smart. They know exactly what to aim for. And when they don’t get what they want the first time, they try again. They never retreat. A successful COS will have them in retreat for generations.

Again the COS is a gift to us because it allows a true republican form of government to prevail. It counts participation by a total of states and not by totals of delegates. This allows for the individual, the independence of the individual to be preserved and not swallowed up by federal laws and courts.

Still, it is good to hear from the likes of Schlafly. He makes some good points about how the Left and their Media will lie and cheat to subvert the Art. V COS process. The more aware participants are to various forms of subversion, the stronger the procedures can be made to foil such subversion.

For newbies who listen to this debate and others like them, I can imagine many first reactions to Schlafly’s arguments will be fear, fear that he instills in them. Many Americans have forgotten that the Founders had a lot more to be concerned about and those concerns are with us still today and forever. But we can educate future Americans about how to treat and manage these concerns while preserving our American values. George Mason’s premonition has come to being. Our federal government now controls almost everything we do, even soon to control the decision process over whether we live or die.


19 posted on 07/09/2014 6:12:46 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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