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Dueling immigration rallies held in CA ("Against illegal immigration? Great! Go back to Europe!")
Yahoo! News / The Associated Press ^ | July 4, 2014 | Matt Hamilton

Posted on 07/05/2014 5:36:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

MURRIETA, Calif. (AP) — Rumors had swirled among anti-immigration activists near a U.S. Border Patrol station in Southern California that the agency would try again to bus in some of the immigrants who have flooded across the U.S.-Mexico border.

Instead, they got dueling anti- and pro-immigration rallies Friday.

The crowd of 200 outside the station in Murrieta waved signs and sometimes shouted at each other. One banner read: "Proud LEGAL American. It doesn't work any other way." Another countered: "Against illegal immigration? Great! Go back to Europe!"(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; california; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration; murrieta; obama
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To: Viennacon
If they have to go back to Europe, so do the Mexicans

Well, the Spanish parts of them, anyway.

41 posted on 07/05/2014 7:39:21 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Patriot Babe

Yep. Anytime you hear Andalucia or Moors you are in the presence of an Arab.

I have a friend proudly proclaim her Moorish heritage.

I laughed and asked if she had any desire to visit Mecca.

She slips every once in a while and I’ve taken to asking if she is comfortable with the concept of walking everywhere and dressed in a cadaver bag.

Blah blah blah....


42 posted on 07/05/2014 7:41:24 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ask the Indians (or even Spain) how well open borders worked for them against “invading hordes”...

PS Mexico is not so tolerant of the brown people from their own Southern border...


43 posted on 07/05/2014 7:47:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: JRandomFreeper

What law dif early immigrants break?


44 posted on 07/05/2014 7:48:12 PM PDT by amihow
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But wait!
I thought Ca had a fence!


45 posted on 07/05/2014 8:06:54 PM PDT by mylife
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Mexicans belong in Mexico... NOT in Spain...


46 posted on 07/05/2014 8:11:05 PM PDT by GOPJ (Why no outrage over IRS targeting? Same reason Pravda didn't make a stink about gulags.FREnterprise)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The True History of the Southwest,” by Matthew Bracken, 2014

The fallacies surrounding the history of the Southwest are staggering, chief among them the “Aztlan” fairy tales. What is the truth? How did the Spanish Europeans conquer the Southwest? The “conquistadores” (that means “conquerors”) did it with the lance, and the lash.

For example, in 1541 Coronado entered present-day New Mexico (which included present-day Arizona during the Spanish era) searching for the “lost cities of gold.” One of his first actions upon meeting the natives was to burn hundreds of them alive in their dwellings for not handing over suspected horse thieves. That is how Spain conquered the natives of the present US Southwest—not with hugs and kisses. It was certainly no love-fest between long-lost brown-skinned soul-mates, as it is often portrayed today by the delusional Aztlaners, who spin the “new bronze race of Mestizos” toro-mierda fable.

By 1821, Mexico City was strong enough to overthrow the even more decrepit and ineffectual Spanish colonial rule. However, the distant provinces of the current U.S. Southwest were far beyond the reach of the authority of the independent but strife-torn and financially insolvent newborn government in Mexico City. These distant northern provinces received neither military protection nor needed levels of trade from the nascent Mexican government. Under Spanish colonial rule, trade with the USA was forbidden, but at least Spain provided trade and Army protection from hostile Indian attacks. Under Mexican abandonment and neglect, the Southwest received neither trade nor protection from Mexico City.

For example, Comanches and Apaches ran rampant in the 1830s in the power vacuum created by Mexican neglect, burning scores of major ranches that had been active for hundreds of years and massacring their inhabitants. Mexico City could neither defend nor keep the allegiance of its nominal subjects in these regions. Nor did it provide needed levels of trade to sustain the prior Spanish colonial era standard of living. Mexican governmental influence atrophied, withered and died at the same time that American pathfinders were opening up new routes into the region.

Increasingly, a growing United States of America was making inroads into the Southwest, via ships into California, and via wagon trains of trade goods over the Santa Fe Trail from St. Louis. The standard of living of the Spanish inhabitants of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas subsequently increased enormously, which is why they did not support Mexico City in the 1846-48 war. In fact, the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of the Southwest never considered themselves “Mexicans” at all, ever. They went, in their own eyes, from Spanish directly to American. To this very day, if you want a punch in the nose, just call a Hispanic native of New Mexico a “Mexican.”

So how long did these self-proclaimed (but newborn), free and independent Mexican governments have even nominal jurisdiction over the American Southwest? For only 25 years, during which time they had no effective control, and the area slipped backwards by every measure until the arrival of the Americans. The Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest never transferred their loyalty from Madrid to Mexico City, because all they received from the chaotic Mexican governments was misrule, neglect, and unchecked Indian raids.

Since then, how long has the area been under firm American control? For over 160 continuous years, during which time the former Spanish inhabitants of the region, (all the while full American citizens), have prospered beyond the wildest dreams of the Mexicans still stuck in Mexico. To compare the infrastructure, roads, schools, hospitals etc. of the two regions is to understand the truth. The Mexican government has been mired in endemic graft, corruption, nepotism and chaos from the very start until today. The ordinary Mexican peons have been trampled and abused, while only the super-rich elites have thrived. This is why millions of Mexicans want to escape from Mexico today, to enjoy the benefits of living in America that they can never hope to obtain in Mexico.

And because today Mexico is a corrupt third-world pest-hole (despite having more millionaires and billionaires than Great Britain), we are supposed to let any number of Mexicans from Chiapas, Michoacán or Yucatan march into the American Southwest, and make some “historical claim” of a right to live there? From where does this absurd idea spring?

At what point in history did Indians and Mestizos from Zacatecas or Durango stake a claim on the American Southwest? (2014 update: Add the citizens of Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and any other nation who can reach our unguarded border.) Neither they nor their ancestors ever lived for one single day in the American Southwest. The Spanish living in the Southwest in 1846 stayed there, and became Americans by the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. There were no Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest who were marched to the border and driven into Mexico. It didn’t happen. The Spanish in the Southwest welcomed American citizenship, which brought stability, protection from Indian raids, and a vast increase in their standard of living with the increase in trade with America.

In summary, no current inhabitants of Mexico (or Guatemala, etc.) have a claim on even one single inch of the American Southwest. Not one single citizen of Mexico is sneaking into the United States to reclaim property their ancestors were deprived of. Not one. They are criminal invaders and colonizers, pure and simple.

It’s time Americans learned the true history of our Southwest, as a counter to the currently prevalent “Aztlan” fairy tales put out by “La Raza” (The Race), “the Brown Berets of Aztlan,” “MEChA” (the Student Movement for Aztlan, whose very symbol is a lit “mecha” or fuse on a dynamite bomb), and other radical (and usually openly communist) anti-American groups.

2014 post script: The U.S. Constitution, in Article 4, Section 4, still mandates that the executive branch—President Barack Obama—must protect the states against invasion. Instead of protecting the states from invasion, our rogue president and his gangster henchmen are now intentionally and with forethought laying open our national borders, and are encouraging and assisting the invaders.

How is this not treason?


47 posted on 07/05/2014 8:17:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; dforest; JRandomFreeper; Maceman; MUDDOG; JW1949; God luvs America; ...

A thief is NOT a guest.

A crack dealer is NOT a pharmacist.

An illegal is NOT an immigrant.


48 posted on 07/05/2014 8:18:39 PM PDT by GOPJ (Why no outrage over IRS targeting? Same reason Pravda didn't make a stink about gulags.FREnterprise)
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To: Mears
I’ll go back to Ireland if they go back to Spain.

I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree,
And a small cabin build there, of clay and wattles made.

49 posted on 07/05/2014 8:25:59 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: GOPJ

And a despot is not a president.


50 posted on 07/05/2014 8:26:55 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Prop 187 (1994) was "the last gasp of white America in California." ~ Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party.

So how come there was no outcry when the Mexican cartel was screaming for whites born here to get out.

In fact Republicans Jack Kemp, Jeb Bush, and William Bennett were among the many ruling elites coming here to California to tell us whites to go to hell.

51 posted on 07/05/2014 8:32:53 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Travis McGee

I feel ya bro-ham, but you know the drill, ...eehhh...the bullies in power need to be taught a lesson, all bullies do....they never shrivel up and blow away.....

“somebody is gonna die for these chickens, you gonna dies for these chickens?.....”Someone is,” says the Hound, then jumps up and throws the table over, knocking the bully down giving the Hound enough time to draw his broadsword and brace for war.” GoT quote.


52 posted on 07/05/2014 8:34:21 PM PDT by wxgesr (I wanna be the first person to surf on another planet......)
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To: MUDDOG

:-)

(I had to look up the meaning of “wattle”.)

.


53 posted on 07/06/2014 5:46:23 AM PDT by Mears
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To: God luvs America

So far this is all I’ve found...

The NAHREP Top 250 will be recognized at the NAHREP 2014 National Convention & Latin Music Festival in Los Angeles, California, on October 14, 2014.
http://nahrep.org/press

Maybe this will be a rally or maybe it won’t. Wouldn’t be the first time that an outdoor concert was hijacked into a political platform.


54 posted on 07/06/2014 5:57:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
How many of these idiots have ‘Conquistador’ Spaniard blood?

Notice how many of them still speak the "mother tongue"...

55 posted on 07/06/2014 6:23:15 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Mears

It’s a great poem. I have it on cassette read by Yeats himself.


56 posted on 07/06/2014 7:54:48 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Probably not many. We are getting the Indians straight from the jungles.


57 posted on 07/06/2014 7:56:20 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: dragnet2

You should take a closer look at the state and local government. The majority of the democrats are part of the communist party including the majority of California’s elected officials, Brown, Pelosi and Boxer. Its not to say that there aren’t any conservatives in California, but your state has been taken over. Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado and Texas are also under siege by the Marxists. It is the illegal supporters and labor unions along with the backing of socialists and communists funding who are making the push. A lot of this movement originate in California when the Marxist Ceasar Chavez became a public figure.

What is happening on our southern border is an all out and orchestrated attack by our government and mexico’s. They are determined to destroy this nation economically. They are turning us (the ones who really work and pay taxes) their slaves because they get free handouts.


58 posted on 07/06/2014 9:39:52 AM PDT by grcuster
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To: grcuster

I noted you totally evaded the question.

BTW, I don’t need you to tell me anything about this corrupt government sponsored lawlessness.


59 posted on 07/06/2014 9:52:43 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Well slick, I believe they have been on the border to prevent them from crossing.


60 posted on 07/06/2014 5:29:43 PM PDT by grcuster
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