[RIghtwardHo]

Sorry. Disagree on this one. Have a good friend in merchant marine and over the years he has talked about, and shown me evidence of, the ruining of the ocean. I’ve also done a mountain of reading on this. This is killing the oceans.

Now of course, the Left will use these facts to do something bizarre, but that doesn’t make the underlying facts untrue

Not everything to preserve the environment is hugging a tree.

[publius911]

Not everything to preserve the environment is hugging a tree.

Nor is your "gut feelings" or the biases based on your familiarity/ignorance of science or interest therein.

The excesses and perversions of science by a surplus of enthusiasm and political correctness, based on nothing, has been painfully evident in the last couple of decades, when dealing with "global warming" or whatever new name they have attached to it this week to keep the ignorant scared about the end of the world.

Extrapolations and "computer models" are the truly ignorant's tools for arguing about subjects no one really understands; other than "it must be really bad!"

[21twelve]

I always wonder how much pollution is caused by recycling our pc’s, printers, tv’s, etc. Most of them get shipped back to China, torn apart and melted down to get the metals, and most of the rest gets tossed somewhere. I recall one photo showing half-naked kids stripping them down, piles of crap all over, and melting fires amongst their shanties. Dumping them in a good-old sealed American landfill would probably be better for the environment.