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22nd Pride Parade Celebrated in Istanbul
Aydinlik Daily ^ | 06-30-2014 | Pınar Çelik

Posted on 06/30/2014 9:05:41 PM PDT by BurningOak

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To: MUDDOG

The rise of Islamic rule by democratic means in Turkey is a reaction by the rural areas to the “liberalization” of the urban areas. Satellite TV brought in the glitz, glamour and porn to Turkey in the 1990’s.

Its amazing that the Islamic democratically elected Erdogan government tolerated this protest. They’ve been putting down every other demonstration recently.

I guess they can tolerate whatever won’t attack the government directly.


21 posted on 07/01/2014 1:06:56 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: BurningOak
The US consul, Charles Hunter, also expressed his support for the community: “I am also gay and here I am in the pride parade of the LGBT people.”

Are there any heterosexuals in the diplomatic sewrvice? ANY?

22 posted on 07/01/2014 1:29:18 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Viennacon
Turkey is like Albania. Only the government has actual Muslims in it.

Maybe in Istanbul, but go east or south of Ankara and things get more fundamental.

23 posted on 07/01/2014 1:30:38 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Nextrush
The rise of Islamic rule by democratic means in Turkey is a reaction by the rural areas to the “liberalization” of the urban areas. Satellite TV brought in the glitz, glamour and porn to Turkey in the 1990’s.

So that's the opposite of what I expected. You're saying TV riled them up instead of turning them into feckless couch potatoes.

24 posted on 07/01/2014 8:46:43 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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I’m no expert on Turkey, I have my degree in media studies and I am fascinated by international media and media history.

The rise of the AK party and their challenge to the secualarist westernized parties followed the media expansion in Turkey from the handful of government only television channels broadcasting 12 hours or less Turks with TV watched in the 1960’s and 70’s.

I understand from US military that served in Turkey that there was always prostitution or porn there, but the rise of 24-hour satellite TV enabled it to be put in people’s faces and it appears Islamic elementsn reacted influenced by events to the southeast decided to take the democratic system and try to win power that way.

In the end, they succeeded.


25 posted on 07/01/2014 8:56:16 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: Nextrush
It's neat to speculate on the impact of TV/internet on society. The wheel's still in spin, so it's hard to tell how it will shake out.

For example, I think McLuhan's old distinction of radio as hot and TV as cool has turned out to be bunk.

26 posted on 07/01/2014 9:10:01 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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People spend hours consuming media and they are changed by it.

Media consumers, their family members and society as a whole are affected by it causing a disturbance in the culture.

Political and or religious forces can come into the void and offer the “solution” to the disturbance.


27 posted on 07/01/2014 10:46:48 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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Great point! It's a feedback system. It either spirals wildly out of control (unstable) or settles down into an equilibrium (stable), or something in-between.

Like the motion of the solar system (basically stable solution to differential equations), or a nuclear bomb chain reaction (unstable Markov chain).

28 posted on 07/01/2014 10:57:03 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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