Posted on 06/20/2014 6:11:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek
They already knew certain Senators and Congressmen were requesting special treatment from the IRS of Lois Lerner. An email from them to her is the same and would probably have prompted a response.
Right. That's what I meant. ;^)
In my opinion, the most damning thing is the behavior of the democrats in this. They’ve repeatedly attacked conservatives and defended the IRS as some kind of oppressed agency.
I used to do a lot of federal gov computer work for Unisys corp in the 90’s and 2000’s.
The entire gov system is generally 10 years obsolete and full of dust compared to the modern private business sector.
I’ve worked at the social security, IRS and I can almost believe this guys claims.....
“Subpoena the makers. Make them explain why their harddrives are so crappy. When their brand image is at risk they’ll admit that the IRS is spreading shinola. Then subpoena the IRS IT guys and drill them about why they are so incompetent.”
And while we’re at it, ask Symantec WHY we’d give them another NICKEL with a system that allows this to happen?
Are the heads of federal agencies required to sign off on their data retention policies. I know I had to sign off on my groups compliance, which went to my boss, then his boss, then the CTO then the CEO. Anyone of us in the chain could be criminally liable, and believe me our compliance department went through it with a fine tooth comb on audits. Proof was required. If I couldn’t prove, it was a terminable offense
Thought this was an ongoing investigation?...
The hard disk crashed in the summer of 2011. The Treasury Dept. IG investigation didn't start until Mar 2012 when Landmark legal sent the letter to Treasury.
I think we need a law that says that any excuse allowed for the government bureaucracy must also be allowable for average citizens. If the government can’t be held responsible to backup critical computer files, then neither can businesses and taxpayers. Equal protection and due process.
Bump
Every government agency has to have a retention policy that they sign off on, and destruction of records has to be documented.
There’s got to be a backup requirement somewhere.
They’re talking about how they expect hard drives to fail at such-and-so rate, and yet it never manages to result in taxpayer information lost. Why is that?
Maybe Congress should reduce the funding for IRS and allocate money not to salaries but to the constant production of paper copies of all emails. Lois Lerner’s retirement money needs to be re-allocated for a computer printer which will print out every email as it is sent or received. Call that printer the “Lois Lerner Memorial FU”
I’ll post this from http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/06/17/irs-manual-explicitly-governs-email-backup-retention/ Not sure if the clickable links will transfer here so you might have to click to go to the site for that feature:
fter the revelation that Lois Lerner’s emails went missing when she spilled coffee on her laptop (I made that part up), I began wondering what type of email infrastructure the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) might be using. Surely, as with nearly every other government agency, all email is stored in a centralized server using something like a Microsoft Exchange platform or equivalent. The messages in your inbox are simply a reflection of your messages as they exist on the server. This model exists for the express purpose of preventing data loss and providing universal access.
For example, I could lose my laptop or the hard drive could catch fire but it doesn’t matter, my emails are safely stored externally on a server somewhere in a data center. That server, undoubtedly, is protected by numerous fail-safe methods such as drive mirroring, daily (if not hourly) backups of data, and the ability to be replicated and restored should that server itself fail or suffer hardware damage. In short, there is no conceivable way that an entire chunk of emails from a specific period in question have gone entirely missing simply because a desktop or laptop computer “crashed,” as the IRS put it.
Luckily, you don’t have to go further than Google to learn a little something about how the IRS expects employees and their own internal information technology department to handle email and other sensitive data. Do a little searching and you’ll come across something called the Internal Revenue Manual, or IRM. This publication includes information divided into thirty-nine parts, which are then subdivided into hundreds of sections and subsections governing every single aspect of the tax-collecting agency.
Of particular interest to me were the sections on email guidelines, data archiving, and security compliance. According to Part 1, Chapter 10, Section 3, “Standards for Using Email,” there is in fact an email archiving procedure in place. In subsection 1.10.3.3.1 of Section 3 title Don’t Slow Down the System, the manual instructs all IRS employees to refrain from sending large attachments since they will be archived with the message and will eventually fill up the server causing performance issues as well as headaches for systems administrators.
Refrain from sending large attachments to work groups or audiences. Remember every email message and any attachments, embedded graphics and photographs require a copy for each Exchange server store where each recipient’s mailbox resides. [Emphasis added]
Instead store the document on an IRS public web archive or SharePoint repository and insert a hyperlink into the message. Ensure the permissions allow access by all recipients prior to sending the message.
This confirms that the IRS is in fact using the Microsoft Exchange platform for email within the organization. We’ve affirmed that all email is in fact being stored on external servers outside an individual desktop or laptop computer of any particular user.
The next question concerns whether those email servers are being backed up and maintained pursuant to other sections of the IRM governing data backup and security. Luckily, Part 10, Chapter 8, Section 60, Subsection 10.8.60.4.4, explains how data backups occur with regard to the Federal Information Security Management Act of 2002 (FISMA).
System/Application Backups
All FISMA-reportable systems and applications and non-applications (as defined by FISMA) shall be backed up in a restorable format on a regular basis, encrypted, and stored offsite. [Emphasis added]
Frequency and type of backups shall be defined in the Operations/Customer SLA and documented in applicable SA&A documents.
Why does this matter, you ask? It’s very simple. FISMA governs the retention and storage of government data, specifically including email and all other electronic correspondence. Simply put, under the banner of FISMA, the emails of Lois Lerner, which were stored by the IRS on an Exchange server store, should have been backed up externally at regular intervals as governed by FISMA. A simple crash of a laptop or desktop computer should not be enough to erase sensitive communications from an individual at the highest levels of a major government agency.
Furthermore, as also required by FISMA and implemented by the IRS according to the Internal Revenue Manual, items such as email must be archived in a way that is easily retrievable in the event of data loss or as needed during a criminal investigation.
Based merely on these small sections of the massive IRS manual, there are only two possibilities with regard to Lois Lerner’s missing emails.
1. They’re gone due to a simple laptop or desktop computer hard drive crash. This must assume that IRS information technology personnel were not following their own set standards for data retention and security. In this case, more heads should be rolling as there may be federal law violated by an agency which is not in compliance with security policies laid out in FISMA.
2. Lois Lerner, in collusion with personnel at the IRS, is lying.
In either case, there is far more to this story than a hard drive crash.
Read more at http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/06/17/irs-manual-explicitly-governs-email-backup-retention/#z6pE0Pc8blLLmFYV.99
It’s time for the future republican congress to fund and create an interim, extremely simplified “new” IRS.
Disband the old one and send a pink slip and a non-compete rule to every current and former IRS employee out there.
So basically they are under the same laws as large banks. And looking at the manual their is also a BCP (Business Contingency Plan), which would require the agency to be able to boot up from off site.
Back in sessions - asking about the supposed efforts to recover data from LL’s crashed HD.
Kos don’t know nothing about dat.
Sometimes it can be as simple as acquiring the exact same HD, open them both up and carefully replace the magnetic platters.....but obviously in this case that was not possible..
Ms Lerner had a fatal hard drive crash and only the pertinent e-mails were lost.
This kind of thing happens....
Everybody on a smoke break or something?
Sander Levin is a big putz! a tool of the left.....
So what was the point of going back into session?
There really isn't one unless Congress is going to start wielding real power; deny funding for the Agency, arrest those held in contempt and generally make life very difficult for non-cooperating witnesses. Otherwise, we just get more smug Regime representatives who know that they are beyond reach of the law and each hearing just further illustrates the helplessness of Congress and the power of the ruling tyrant.
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