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To: Talisker

If we are saved by God, what are we saved from?


Personal understanding is fine but the answer to the question from the Bible is we are saved from God’s Wrath.

We are not saved from hell. We are not saved from going down the wrong path. We are saved from a God that must be just. Or another way of looking at it is we are saved FROM God BY God. Now that requires some thinking as to the nature of God.

To expand on this, think about the story of Abraham offering Isaac as a sacrifice. Think to yourself what the purpose of the story is. Now read Gen 22:12 and you will find God’s reason for doing what he did. “.....for now I know that _______________”

That should also lead us to thinking who God is. It is not something our human ears want to hear or think about. That He would take Abraham through that experience for that one purpose should give us pause.....................


41 posted on 06/20/2014 10:16:58 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Where is your thinking cap? The one you were issued in elementary school.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Personal understanding is fine but the answer to the question from the Bible is we are saved from God’s Wrath.

How can a loving God have wrath?

Answer: because God has set us up a Law. And so, violating that law makes us experience suffering. Peope who suffer for violating God's law call it wrath, but the idea that God can actually hate us is nonsense - God loves us. God feels pain when we violate the Law and hurt ourselves. But if we do not learn from teh law, we would go astray forever, and never find out way back. So, ultimately, even though it can cause us great pain, God's Law is given to us in love, for us to learn from - by a loving God.

Divine Love is not conditional. Human love is conditional. Human effort is limited. Human mistakes are constant. But Divine Love is unconditional the essence of Grace, even when we mistake it as wrath. And eventually, it brings us to itself - no matter how stubborn we are - not through force, but because we finally learn from the Law, rather than fight it.

45 posted on 06/22/2014 6:29:36 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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