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Can the Sukhoi Su-30 have the edge over U.S. fighters in aerial combat?
The Aviationist ^ | Jun 18 2014 | Dario Leone

Posted on 06/18/2014 7:22:53 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: Yo-Yo

Thanks, enjoyed his take on things and his presentation methods.


21 posted on 06/18/2014 11:55:40 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Red Badger
When was the last ‘dogfight’ between real combatants? Korea? With long range radar and self guided missiles, a pilot might never even see his enemy.....................

Wrong.
The last dogfights were between Russian pilots flying Egyptian and Syrian marked Russian planes.

In he 60s to 80s.

22 posted on 06/18/2014 2:24:41 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: doorgunner69

>So, when do we start adding Trust Vectoring to our F-15’s?<

>>F-15s are falling apart from age and use, do you really think Hussein would spend a dime to upgrade them?<<

I just realized I misspelled THRUST in my original Post, though I trust that it could be done.

Would probably be cheaper if we built more F-22’s anyway, like that’s ever going to happen.

Heck, the Idiots are canceling the A-10. Imagine what those would have done to the ISIS Terrorists when they were wide open in the middle of the Iraqi Desert.

It would have been like the Iraqi Retreat from Kuwait all over again and I’m sure Colin Powell, the AA fake Republican Ex General, would have cried like a baby.

It’s hard to imagine how far and fast the USA has fallen.


23 posted on 06/18/2014 6:39:11 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Proud Antiobamunist since 2008...)
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To: aegiscg47
would you take 10 Su-30s with the Russian/Indian/Chinese electronic support

The Indians have Israeli and French avionics.Their AWACS is the Israeli Phalcon system mounted on the IL-78/Beriev A-50.

24 posted on 06/18/2014 10:14:08 PM PDT by IndianChief
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To: Red Badger

Dog fighting in Vietnam. The USAF claimed 137 air kills in Vietnam,40 were by gun fire. USN/USMC claim 60 shoot downs, 8 by gunfire. One of the Navy’s kills was scored by a Douglas A-1 Skyraider against a Mig 17. One of the AFs kills was by a B52 tail gunner against a Mig 19.
Early in the war F4s lacked guns. This was corrected with a pod mounted gun system.
During the air war in Vietnam we fired 612 sparrow missiles shooting down 56 enemy aircraft, sidewinders got 81 kills out of 454 fired.


25 posted on 06/19/2014 5:35:27 AM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: sukhoi-30mki

After the unification Germany get into the possession of several MiG 29 and AA-11 Archer missiles.

Soon after that Germany started the IRIS-T missile. One of the main features is lock-on after launch. That feature is used to fire this type of missile through a torpedo tube to kill searching helicopters (IDAS).


26 posted on 06/19/2014 2:16:17 PM PDT by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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To: Red Badger

Bekaa Valley 1982 had the most in recent memory. Last gun kills.


27 posted on 08/09/2014 12:15:37 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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