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To: Olog-hai

“What gives them the right to do what they’re doing?”

Um, the same right that allows us to meddle in Egypt, Libya, and Syria I suppose...

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. How dare we say Russia can’t exert influence on neighboring nation states while we were meddling in those same states ourselves? Have you forgotten that we backed the rebellion in Kiev that overthrew the legal government? Now we dare complain that there’s a counter rebellion against the rebellion?

Quit looking at everything from only America’s perspective. Look at how other nations might perceive us. They certainly have as much right to exist and pursue their interests as we, and just because they don’t use dollars or kowtow to American might doesn’t mean they’re our enemies.

Tell me America isn’t a busybody on the world stage right now. So what if we conservatives don’t want to be like that? The liberals who are running America just can’t avoid sticking their noses in everyone’s business.


47 posted on 06/14/2014 12:57:44 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: CitizenUSA

It’s only the liberals that have “meddled”. And you really have to stop calling the liberals “we”.


49 posted on 06/14/2014 1:03:57 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: CitizenUSA
How dare we say Russia can't exert influence on neighbouring nation states while we were meddling in those same states themselves?

...Quit looking at everything from only America's perspective. Look at how other nations might perceive us. They certainly have as much right to exist and pursue their interests as we, and just because they don't use dollars to kowtow to American might doesn't mean they're our enemies.

How dare we? Maybe because I put American interests ahead of Russian interests. Russia is 'meddling' on a far greater and a more merciless scale to countries they are still capable of 'meddling' in. It's just on a smaller scale, and quite frankly, I think both American and Ukrainian interests would be better served if Russia's expansionist interests were 'meddled' with and thwarted.

America has also generally tried to create democracies and freedom across the world, which would naturally align with America over that of Russian Bolshevism. People who doubt that can ask Germany, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines and dozens of other countries how American influence has pushed them in the right direction.

Russia, Iran and China's 'meddling' has instead propped up dictatorships and oppressive governments all over the world, because they know democracies by their very nature would rather align with the free world. This is another reason why we have a right to defend American interests and side with other countries interests over those of would-be oppressors.

If American support for Ukraine thwarts Russian expansionism, I'm all for it. Not only that, but I believe we are also acting to defend Ukrainian interests in the process. I daresay a country that is being 'meddled' in by America will probably end up being more free than a country being 'meddled' in by Russia. Russia doesn't exactly have a good track record on that.

70 posted on 06/14/2014 1:41:17 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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