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Kit Carson Park in New Mexico renamed over American Indian concerns
Fox ^ | 6/13/2014

Posted on 06/13/2014 4:01:04 PM PDT by Altura Ct.

A northern New Mexico town council has voted to change the name of Kit Carson Park over concerns by critics that the famed scout and explorer was cruel to American Indians.

The Taos Town Council passed a resolution Tuesday to rename the downtown park Red Willow following a presentation from activists, the Albuquerque Journal reports.

Council member Fritz Hahn said one American Indian activist felt uncomfortable in the park, which is named after someone who egregiously hurt her people. "We have got to heal the wreckage of the past, and Kit Carson is part of that," Hahn said

Carson, who died in in 1868, is buried in the cemetery at the park and his name is all over Taos. He largely is known as an explorer, trapper, soldier and American Indian agent.

But Carson was ordered by the U.S. Army to relocate around 8,000 Navajo men, women and children 300 miles from Arizona to Fort Sumner, New Mexico, on what's called the "Long Walk." An estimated 200 Navajos died from cold and starvation after traveling in brutal and harsh winter conditions for almost two months.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; americanindians; kitcarson; kitcarsonpark; liberalfascism; namesake; purge
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To: Altura Ct.
Council member Fritz Hahn

http://www.taosnews.com/article_f3a88ff6-99bd-11e3-a14e-0019bb2963f4.html

Another community organizer


61 posted on 06/13/2014 6:15:58 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Altura Ct.

What “wreckage of the past”. We conquered the Indians. That has been done all over the world — including by one Indian tribe to another. There is no such thing as a “Native American”. NO human is native to this continent. Stop putting them on a pedestal. Yes, Andrew Jackson and others were brutal. But so were Indians with each other.


62 posted on 06/13/2014 6:24:10 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Altura Ct.

Taos is a leftist enclave. I’m surprised they took this long.


63 posted on 06/13/2014 6:34:02 PM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: oldplayer

“but had a practical and realistic view of what could and could not be done at the time.”

He was required to follow orders but more than once refused due to the harshness of the orders against the Indians.


64 posted on 06/13/2014 6:39:39 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Altura Ct.

“Council member Fritz Hahn said one American Indian activist felt uncomfortable in the park”.....

SO STAY THE HELL OUT OF THE PARK THEN..


65 posted on 06/13/2014 7:09:07 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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To: kingattax

top of my list: I am uncomfortable with Obama occupying the White House. Please remove him.


66 posted on 06/13/2014 7:10:41 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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To: righttackle44
Real good - you just compared Kit Carson to Adolph Hitler.

What a very stupid comparison you made.

67 posted on 06/13/2014 8:49:54 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Altura Ct.
Council member Fritz Hahn said one American Indian activist felt uncomfortable in the park

How hypocritical and so politically in-correct
on the part of the certified "community organizer"

I'm sure he meant "Native-American"


68 posted on 06/14/2014 9:03:58 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: razorback-bert

“Navajos really dislike Kit Carson”

Carson broke the back of the Navajo tribe when he burned their villages and crops and trapped the tribe in Canyon de Chelly.

By the time winter arrived the tribe was starved into submission, surrendered and agreed to go onto a reservation.


69 posted on 06/14/2014 9:25:29 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Altura Ct.
New wrinkle.

No one asked the Taos Pueblo Leadership.

Mayor apologizes to Pueblo for ‘very fast’ decision on Kit Carson Park


70 posted on 06/26/2014 8:33:17 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

He has said he supports renaming the park as a way to “unite the community.”

That’s a friggen joke.


71 posted on 06/27/2014 3:25:10 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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72 posted on 06/27/2014 12:12:18 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

I worked in that park in the 1970’s building some stuff...they could name it “Parke de Woofie” after me if they want


73 posted on 06/27/2014 12:19:38 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Altura Ct.
Fine name it after Chief Manuelito, a Navajo warrior.

It's not going to change history. I imagine the next move will be to ask the feds to rename the Kit Carson National Forest.

74 posted on 06/27/2014 12:25:43 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: glyptol
And rename the Grand Tetons because the fems find it offensive.

Yes, let's call it the Bodacious Tatas instead. If anyone asks, it's named for a car made in India.

A pair of Bodacious(ly ugly) Tatas!

75 posted on 06/27/2014 12:30:03 PM PDT by Disambiguator (#cornedbeef)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I lost my train of thought for moment...


76 posted on 06/27/2014 12:37:09 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Monorprise

Northern New Mexico has been ruined by these carpet bagging a-holes.


77 posted on 06/27/2014 12:40:05 PM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: sean327
Northern New Mexico has been ruined by these carpet bagging a-holes.

Fritz Hahn with his MS in communist street agitation.

He was so concerned about community relations
that he failed to dialogue with anyone within the Tribe
especially the Pueblo Governor and War Chief.

OBTW what are they planning to do with
Kit Carson's grave in the park?


78 posted on 06/27/2014 12:55:44 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: sean327

“Northern New Mexico has been ruined by these carpet bagging a-holes.”

Its certainly not as pleasant and accommodating to the people who have been here hundreds of years as it uses to be, but in all fair respect its New Mexico’s own constitution, laws, and property taxes that are actually doing the harm.


79 posted on 06/27/2014 2:07:50 PM PDT by Monorprise
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