[Finny]

What was her first clue? Mine was when he threw his grandmother under the bus to get elected in 2008. Politicians are generally venal but that was the act of a very sick man.

Yow. Tiger, I'd forgotten all about that! You're right. It was coldblooded.

Lest we forget -- the Clintons were as cold-blooded.

Good thread, Rooster.

[TigersEye]

Lest we forget -- the Clintons were as cold-blooded.

Definitely. The Clintons are more apt to literally murder their enemies, IMO, than throw them under the bus. But 0bama's method may have proved more effective. He doesn't triangulate (negotiate) with Republicans.