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To: Genoa

Yes, I know what you are saying. The doctrine of the perseverance of the saints is sometimes difficult to understand. The very proof that you truly believe is remaining in the faith and obedience to God’s commands. Hebrews teaches that if someone can turn apostate with no repercussions, then they probably were never truly saved. I do believe that our faith is given and maintained by God, not ourselves.
Have a blessed day!


47 posted on 06/06/2014 7:43:14 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: 2nd Amendment
Hebrews teaches that if someone can turn apostate with no repercussions, then they probably were never truly saved.

Is Hebrews saying that? With all due respect, I don't buy the "never truly saved" explanation. If that person thought they were saved but weren't truly saved, what does that say to you and me? How can we be sure we're saved? If "never truly saved" is a valid explanation, the Arminian has a better sense of security, conditional though it may be. Food for thought.
48 posted on 06/06/2014 7:49:23 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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