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Veterans still battling 1973 fire that wiped out millions of service records
FoxNews.com ^ | June 04, 2014 | by Christina Corbin

Posted on 06/05/2014 10:48:55 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

While the Veterans Administration struggles to repair the damage caused by shoddy -- and in some cases fraudulent -- handling of health care for American service members, benefits for millions who served their country in four wars were wiped out in a fire more than 40 years ago, leaving many battling to this day to collect their due.

The blaze that ripped through the National Personnel Records Center in a St. Louis suburb shortly after midnight on July 12, 1973, consumed 16 million to 18 million official military personnel files long before computers kept such records safe from harm. Few could have predicted the harm it would visit on the veterans who were denied VA benefits -- some to this day -- because they could not reconstruct their military service files.

Tom Morrow, a 67-year-old Vietnam veteran, suffered a head injury while training at Fort Benning, Ga., prior to his deployment to Saigon in 1967 at age 20. The side effects that followed were debilitating for Morrow: seizures and cold sweats followed later by panic attacks and symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder.

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More on this fire; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Personnel_Records_Center_fire
1 posted on 06/05/2014 10:48:55 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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The VA has used this crap on my husband. Only problem is my husband's records from Vietnam were missing long before that fire.

Leads me to believe that my husband's medical records showed things the government does not want to pay for.

2 posted on 06/05/2014 10:54:13 AM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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Yep - my records were missed in the fire but my late Dad’s weren’t. He called them back saying that he had hard copy of everything in them, which is why I now have hard copy of everything I was ever sent.


3 posted on 06/05/2014 10:57:09 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: US Navy Vet
[...] consumed 16 million to 18 million official military personnel files long before computers kept such records safe from harm.

Yeah, now that everything is on computers, it's safe from harm, and we can just forget about it.

Regards,

4 posted on 06/05/2014 10:58:28 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: US Navy Vet

When I retired from the AF I made sure I had copies of my service record and all of my medical records. Unfortunately, my active enlisted Marine Corps records had been sent to the personnel records center just before the fire date and I haven’t been able to track them down. My records shouldn’t have been destroyed but in trying to get the records to add to my father’s genealogy records I believe they are gone. He was WWII and called back for Korea. They were probably included in the records that were destroyed since his name begins with an S.


5 posted on 06/05/2014 11:10:17 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: US Navy Vet

I almost lost a pending sale with a VA Loan because of that fire.


6 posted on 06/05/2014 11:11:24 AM PDT by AU72
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To: alexander_busek

“Yeah, now that everything is on computers, it’s safe from harm, and we can just forget about it.”

Laugh of the day. :-)

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7 posted on 06/05/2014 11:12:25 AM PDT by Mears
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To: US Navy Vet
I know one such person. He finally got in the system about 3 months ago.

He came home from Vietnam practically deaf and has had no luck since. They said he had never been in combat. He finally went to the VA in a neighboring state, he had found an advocate and they were able to get him in there. They reconstructed his service by the papers he had along with news clippings from the local paper.

8 posted on 06/05/2014 11:19:44 AM PDT by tiki
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To: US Navy Vet

Illegal aliens go to the front of the line. Americans and Veterans are not worth consideration. All of those socialist, American-hating hippies who spit on Veterans who were returning from VietNam, along with their corrupted offspring, are now in charge, like bill, hillary, obama, kerry, and ayers to name a few. Maybe the generals should have left some troops at home to clean out the leftist rat’s nests that were building up here. Now, all of the Veterans from wars since have to pay the price, again.


9 posted on 06/05/2014 11:21:40 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: defconw

I kept most of the papers I was given during my military term.

Most of my dad’s papers were burned in that fire. He also kept many of his papers which I still have.

I remember the day the news reported on that fire. I was wondering how it would affect us.


10 posted on 06/05/2014 11:24:52 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: Billthedrill

In 1985, I flew in a UH-1H to deliver some unit personnel records to the records center in St. Louis. My Dad always urged me to save a hard copy of anything military related that pertained to my service. I still have my own self maintained service and medical records that I started as a cadet. One look at the hallways there jammed with pallets of records and documents spilling out on the floor, confirmed his warnings.


11 posted on 06/05/2014 11:25:30 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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Well that's good. We have all the stuff before he went to Vietnam and all the stuff when he was in the National Guard. He was treated in Vietnam for a few things, none of those records exist. Those are the service connected things that are conveniently missing! He was in no frame of mind to have known if they gave him records or not.

I was not married to him at the time. It's like beating a dead horse. I am not going to get any where with the VA. But make copies of everything you can!

12 posted on 06/05/2014 11:29:42 AM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Mine were among those lost. However, I was able to show hospitalization from Company Morning Reports which were held at another location. My Rep helped me out to get them retrieved.


13 posted on 06/05/2014 11:32:32 AM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: RJS1950

I can’t find records of my grandfather’s WWII service- was also checking for genealogy. I have seen pictures and other artifacts, so we know it happened!


14 posted on 06/05/2014 11:48:33 AM PDT by conservative cat
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At a minimum, your grandfather’s BRLS record should be available through Ancestry, search Military. The BRLS usually has a bit of information. If he was Navy or Marine Corps there should also be muster rolls under that search.

There were certain categories of records for the army and air force that were destroyed, by date and by last name. There are web sites where you can request those records from DoD, even for deceased veterans. They have some records going back to the 1700s.


15 posted on 06/05/2014 11:52:50 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: US Navy Vet

The only reason I have my grandfather’s Army records (1903-1912) is because a copy was added to his Marine records (1912-1922) which survived. Of course, his later Army records (1941-1947) were destroyed in the St. Louis fire, but I know where he was most of the time (Japanese POW camps).


16 posted on 06/05/2014 11:54:52 AM PDT by Andyman (The truth shall make you FReep.)
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"The VA has used this crap on my husband. Only problem is my husband's records from Vietnam were missing long before that fire. Leads me to believe that my husband's medical records showed things the government does not want to pay for."

Many Marines were sent TDY with no notations in the SRB's. Perhaps your husband was one of them?

The US Govt has looked for ways to get out of treaties and contracts since they beat a Jewish financier out of the money he put into the Revolutionary war. Don't believe me? Ask an Indian.

17 posted on 06/05/2014 12:02:11 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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The fire? Oh, you mean Operation Save the Careers of Every Democrat Who Came of Age in the Vietnam Era?


18 posted on 06/05/2014 12:46:18 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine
Could be. My husband was Army, Infantry/Air Calvary.
19 posted on 06/05/2014 3:50:01 PM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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To: US Navy Vet

If he got PTSD in Saigon it was the: So many, So little time syndrome.


20 posted on 06/05/2014 3:58:43 PM PDT by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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