Posted on 05/24/2014 1:50:20 PM PDT by kristinn
the only time when the thought police can prevail is if you are an unmitigated Christian.....then, you can be locked up instantly....
How awful. Sadly, there is little families can do.
I have a half sister who took care of her dying father. After he died, she went into a deep depression - not bathing, not leaving her room, not talking, etc. My elderly mother (with whom she lived) couldn’t get her to get help. At one point my mother called the police, my mother hoped at least for a 72 hour hospital stay. No such luck. My college-educated sister was articulate, calm, non-threatening, and the police left. I guess it was fortunate that she was too depressed to be violent, but it took almost another year for her to get help and medication.
I don’t know this young man’s mental issues, but people can’t really blame the parents when the police and social services won’t do anything if the person isn’t an immediate danger to himself or others. Then this stuff happens and people want to try an affix blame, but you can’t. The kid was sick and we live in a free society that let’s these people make medical decisions for themselves. It doesn’t always work out.
oh? flinging dung is now a rebuttal? very eloquent.
And, if they did what you seem to think they should have done (what is that anyway?) you would have cause to carp about their infringing on Constitutional rights.
The constitution is not a suicide pact. There was a time in America before cops were saddled with a political agenda and were actually concerned about law and order, that this kid would have been separated from his guns at the very least and monitored.
And cops aren't psychiatrists - they are law enforcement officers. They have limited powers for a purpose. The dude should have been handled differently by those who knew him well - calling the cops for a case like this is a cop-out, not a solution.
Agree that there was a time in America when no government involvement would have been necessary. Rodger’s father perhaps accompanied by one or two male relatives should have marched into his deranged son’s apartment not only confiscated the guns but cut off the money spigot that made the drugs, BMW and the purchases of guns and ammo possible. Fathers have to behave as men.There have always been deranged people that were straightened out in a variety of ways.
1. Totalitarian governments don't have to disarm people, since the people are already disarmed. That's how they can become totalitarian governments in the first place.
2. Most governments don't have to use force to disarm people. An awful lot of people are idiots -- and subjects, not citizens -- who are hell-bent on disarming themselves.
Absolutely true, “an issued “order of protection” can come about as a result of perjury, external insanity by the accuser”. Just as a conviction and imprisonment on felony charges can ALSO be the result of perjury, insane accusers, etc. Should the 2nd amendment rights of imprisoned convicted felons be in force within the walls of the prison? If you say “No”, how can you deny the constitutional rights of an unjustly convicted/imprisoned person? This argument could go on forever. This is apparently a very sensitive subject for many people, my intent is not to anger anyone. My intent is only to engage in thoughtful discussion and debate, if my language provokes anything else, I apologize.
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