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Missing Malaysia Airlines plane: Scientists question methods and the politics of the MH370 search
Herald Sun ^ | 5-23-14 | IAN McPHEDRAN National Defence Writer

Posted on 05/23/2014 11:09:19 AM PDT by windcliff

UNDERWATER scientists have labelled the search for MH370 a “debacle” and say Prime Minister Tony Abbott was playing politics when he prematurely announced the black box pingers had been found.

The acoustic experts, who do not wish to be identified, said the four crucial signals detected by a US pinger locator were almost certainly not from the missing Malaysian Airlines plane’s black boxes, but from another man-made source.

They insisted that the signals were in the wrong frequency and detected too far apart to be from the boxes.

“As soon as I saw the frequency and the distance between the pings I knew it couldn’t be the aircraft pinger,” one scientist told News Corp Australia.

That conclusion is supported by the lack of success from a detailed search of the area conducted by the US deep sea drone ‘Bluefin 21’.

The unmanned submarine will return to Perth this weekend and will be replaced by a commercial deep water search vehicle.

(Excerpt) Read more at heraldsun.com.au ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: mh370
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1 posted on 05/23/2014 11:09:19 AM PDT by windcliff
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I thought the black box batteries only lasted a week or so anyway. Too late for that now isn’t it?


2 posted on 05/23/2014 11:13:07 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: windcliff

This thing stinks to high heaven of cover-up for some as yet unknown political reason. If I had to bet I’d bet the present administration is up to its hips in it.


3 posted on 05/23/2014 11:13:31 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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4 posted on 05/23/2014 11:16:33 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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To: Don Corleone

That is just about the way I see it too.

I have no idea where it is or what happened but am suspicious that those things are known by some who don’t want the rest of us to know.


5 posted on 05/23/2014 11:19:21 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Don Corleone

They know what happened they are just not sharing it with the rest of us.


6 posted on 05/23/2014 11:24:05 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: windcliff
This all refers back to the loss we have allowed in underwater acoustics capabilities. Before 1991 we could detect, localize, and track a Soviet nuke and make repeated passive attacks without their ever knowing we were there. Since then we have let our ASW capabilities shrivel to the point where the new P-8* is reportedly incapable of doing electronic ASW at all. We went from 451 mission-ready P-3s in the 80s to just 80 or so airworthy now. You may not see the connection between ASW and finding a submerged sound source, but they are the same.

* If we build the P-8 in any quantity

7 posted on 05/23/2014 11:27:47 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: windcliff; hoosiermama; maggief; null and void; crosslink; Black Agnes; Nachum; LucyT

Thanks windcliff!

Pinging all y’all to this post!


8 posted on 05/23/2014 11:44:07 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: windcliff

Someday someone will find bits of it plastered against the side of a remote Himalayan mountain in Bhutan.


9 posted on 05/23/2014 11:44:40 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: windcliff

I still think it landed somewhere. 777’s just don’t disappear.


10 posted on 05/23/2014 11:44:55 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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...and half of those 451 mission-ready P-3s flew over my house every day in the 80s heading from Moffett NAS to the Pacific on ASW missions. Windows rattled, the chandelier swung...what a racket. All gone now. The degradation of our capabilities is frightening.


11 posted on 05/23/2014 12:02:40 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Unless God pulled an Enoch and Elijah. Which I don’t think happened.


12 posted on 05/23/2014 12:08:17 PM PDT by mothball
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To: Don Corleone

Google the closing of Garcia Diego at the time all this was going down


13 posted on 05/23/2014 12:09:51 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: MichaelCorleone

30 days. They heard some pings weeks ago.


14 posted on 05/23/2014 12:18:58 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: windcliff

I have read that a fisherman saw a plane on fire in sky and I would like to know where that was.


15 posted on 05/23/2014 12:41:22 PM PDT by LookingUp
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Plane’s in Pakistan. Cover-up, just like Bengazi.


16 posted on 05/23/2014 12:42:44 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: Georgia Girl 2
They know what happened they are just not sharing it with the rest of us

You'd think, except how long can a secret be kept if more than two people are in on it?

I'd like to believe that in an era when the NSA is probably reading this post that a plane with hundreds of people on it and not much later hundreds of school girls can't just disappear into thin air. Everything is just too weird.

17 posted on 05/23/2014 12:47:27 PM PDT by grania
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You have a great point, as wreckage should have floated up on beaches in the Indian ocean weeks ago if it broke up in the ocean and wasn’t ‘landed’ intact in the sea.

One other thought: It ‘is’ possible it crashed into the jungle somewhere, intentionally or otherwise, and might be waiting to be found. If there were no witnesses and no fire (fuel exhausted or dumped), a crash site would be as hard, if not harder, to find as wreckage in the vast Indian Ocean...

The whole thing stinks. And getting the Aussies involved for validity of the search (initially) seems to have only deepened the distrust at this point (IMHO).


18 posted on 05/23/2014 12:48:45 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: doc maverick

Yep. It’s in one of the ‘stans.


19 posted on 05/23/2014 12:49:47 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: logi_cal869

China is a fascist state with total control of the media and its people. Malaysia is dysfunctional. There’s something embarrassing or sinister to the China government about this “missing” plane. Beijing knows what happened.

Just my $0.02.


20 posted on 05/23/2014 12:54:56 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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