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India's Election: The Next Prime Minister Is A Dangerous Man
The New Republic ^ | May 16, 2014 | Isaac Chotiner

Posted on 05/17/2014 1:40:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Maneesh

There are some rabid anti-Hindus here. A few years ago there were more intersting discussions about actual Hinduism, but I haven’t seen any for a while.

An interesting book about the history of Islamic invasion as well as some European atrocities is “Crimes Against India” by Stephen Knapp, very well researched. I could only read a few pages at a time, as it was so graphic. People have so many misconceptions and wild prejudices against India in general and Hinduism in particular, very sad.

http://www.amazon.com/Crimes-Against-India-Tradition-Hinduism/dp/1440111588/ref=sr_1_1_bnp_1_pap?ie=UTF8&qid=1400385013&sr=8-1&keywords=Crimes+Against+India


61 posted on 05/17/2014 8:51:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: steve86

You really have a wrong idea of what India is like, and what Hinduism is.


62 posted on 05/17/2014 8:53:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: GeronL

Hindus welcomed or at least tolerated Christians in India for almost 2000 years. Then when the Portugeuse came to Goa in IIRC the 1500 or 1600’s, they committed many atrocities to the Hindu population - torture and the like. Still, there was little to no anti-Christian acts against Christians in India other than whatever reactions to the Portuguese violence.

More recently there has been very aggressive proselytizing by Christians using coercian and trickery. Things like opening schools in poor villages, letting kids come free for a year or two, and then telling the families with children attending that they have to convert to Christianity or their children can’t come, or it will now cost a lot of money unless they convert. Another method is to distribute food to poor people for a while, and then tell them if they want more food distribution, they have to convert.

Yet another method is printing pictures of Jesus kicking the heads of Hindu deities.

I remember on FR a member here went to India to visit a Christian mission he had been donating money to, and they had sent photos of their church that was burned down supposedly by Hindus. When he arrived in India he found there was no burned church and no real mission. It was a scam.


63 posted on 05/17/2014 9:15:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: MBT ARJUN

The president of the US sides with Moslems so I don’t think he will welcome Modi happily. The pres. of the US is morally and ethically blind.


64 posted on 05/17/2014 9:20:21 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dangerous? For being AntiMuslim and a Free Market person. Only the left would think that.


65 posted on 05/17/2014 9:27:30 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: steve86
Knock it off!
66 posted on 05/17/2014 9:54:15 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, thankfully the election wasn’t up to you, Issac, you arrogant SOB How dare you lecture the people of India for voting out the corrupt and incompetent Gandibots.


68 posted on 05/17/2014 11:08:34 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
India's Election: The Next Prime Minister Is A Dangerous Man (Too anti-Muslim and free market)

As far as being "too Free-Market": Every single country seems to have learned from America, except America.

As far as being "too Anti-Muslim": *IS* there such a thing?

69 posted on 05/18/2014 4:21:51 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
and whose (Modi's - Co) attitude to Muslims might be euphemistically described as unwelcoming. (He likes to talk about "appeasement" of Muslims and said this election was about "taking revenge" on them.)

For more on Modi's personality, I encourage everyone to read Vinod Jose's brilliant profile of him from 2010, which gets at the way he deals with dissent, and takes a disturbing trip through Modi's psyche. (The dizzying summary: this is how a fascist person thinks.)

Reminds one of Valerie Jarrett. I wonder if Mr. Chotiner is capable of drawing the parallel as regards the Obama Administration. /s

70 posted on 05/18/2014 6:18:37 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us three choices: Defeat them utterly, die, or surrender to a life of slavery.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hinduism should not be compared in the same field as Islam. Islam as a whole is a very violent and tyrannical religion, not only to it own adherents, but especially to those outside of it. Hinduism is nowhere like Islam. The vast majority of Hindus are good people. In fact I like some of my Hindu friends over some "christian" ones.

This guy Modi, however, would bring some trepidation to Indian christians. He is affiliated with organizations that have in the past incited and carried out mass violence against christians (of all stripes). Not just violence, but conspiracy theories as well. I believe they do this to rile up and consolidate the hindu vote for the BJP party.

Now that Modi has complete power of the highest office in the country, we will have to wait and see what he does. Especially, later down the road when government performance does not match sky high expectations.

I am not going to be worried though, as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, has a plan for his children - even if it includes temporary suffering.

71 posted on 05/18/2014 6:40:39 AM PDT by Moorings
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s no good reason for the current crop of diplomats or their constituent bosses to be receiving incomes or active in politics. They’re not fit to dig ditches. They push social pathologies and refuse to respect independence in potentially friendly nations while eating away at the rights of their own countrymen.


72 posted on 05/18/2014 12:47:55 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m referring to the useless diplomats and their constituent bosses on both sides, BTW—same thing.


73 posted on 05/18/2014 12:50:18 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: little jeremiah

Well said.


74 posted on 05/18/2014 12:53:18 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: steve86; little jeremiah; Maneesh; MBT ARJUN; IndianChief

Interesting FR page there, steve86.

http://www.freerepublic.com/~steve86/


75 posted on 05/18/2014 1:17:06 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If he is anti-Muslim he can’t be ALL bad...


76 posted on 05/18/2014 2:31:49 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: familyop

In fact, it is said that St. Thomas, one of Jesus’ disciples, went to India, and there have been some Christians in India for about 2000 years, well before the Portuguese. Actually link I posted above has details of the atrocities by the Portuguese. I could only read about 5 pages of that book a day.


77 posted on 05/18/2014 3:21:29 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: SpaceBar
A under-appreciated fact is that no other non-muslim country has suffered the most from islam through pogroms and terrorism for the last 1300 years than India.

Good point, though on a per capita basis, Israel has them beat at least since they came into existence in 1948.

78 posted on 05/18/2014 3:38:04 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; flaglady47; mickie; pax_et_bonum; Maine Mariner; seekthetruth; M Kehoe; ...
I know zot about Indian politics.

All I know is that the article is so bizarrely lurid, so over-the-top, so blackly dramatic, so over-acting, so New York Times-ish, so Harry Reid-ish, so vindictively making this candidate into a three-headed, six-armed, one-eyed, horned devil....that it HAS TO BE that the potential next premier of India is most certainly the re-incarnation of Barry Goldwater.

GO, MODI DUDE, GO !!!

Leni

79 posted on 05/18/2014 3:39:49 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Maneesh
Excellent point and thanks for raising it. Mother Theresa ran into some real knuckleheads when she first started her ministry to the poor but, by and large, the Hindu majority in India greatly respected her.

Some of the aforementioned knuckleheads impeded her work at first but, so far as I am aware, there were never death threats . I've know a lot of Hindus over my working life and they come in many varieties. A family we were friends with in Japan even told us they were perfectly okay with meat when we invited them over for dinner. My wife had prepared a number of vegetarian dishes, just in case. But they were good to their word.

80 posted on 05/18/2014 3:44:43 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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