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Towerless Buoyant Air Turbine May Expand Wind Energy’s Reach
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Posted on 05/13/2014 6:52:38 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

We cover wind turbine news here on a regular basis, but now this excellent renewable technology, currently second only to solar, may be capable of going towerless. Altaeros Energies has developed a promising buoyant air turbine to harness high-altitude winds and deploy low-cost power from them. A group from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) formed Altaeros four years ago. The company views its invention as “the next generation of wind power.”

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May be good for remote areas....as long as my taxpayer dollars don't subsidize this, I say let 'em go for it.
1 posted on 05/13/2014 6:52:38 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Kill more Eagles.


2 posted on 05/13/2014 6:58:04 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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Saw this last night - I think on Sky News.

I think it’s an interesting idea. Be more interesting if they scaled it down to the level of a single home - if you’re in a rural area, distributing to 18 homes is probably going to cost more than this device.

Also, what happens in a storm? Do you have to reel it in? What about where it gets cold? Does it ice up and fall to the ground?


3 posted on 05/13/2014 6:59:20 AM PDT by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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The thing reels itself down when bad weather is coming. Amazing.


4 posted on 05/13/2014 7:00:19 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Just don’t tell anyone where helium comes from.


5 posted on 05/13/2014 7:02:39 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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Just don’t tell anyone where helium comes from.

It comes from recycled birthday balloons! /s

6 posted on 05/13/2014 7:08:18 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: chrisser

I read about it yesterday. It’s operational altitude is high enough to avoid killing birds, it has transponders and lights to avoid air traffic and is wenched back down during inclement weather.

It sounds rather interesting. I wish I owned a tropical island to test it out on.


7 posted on 05/13/2014 7:10:33 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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Good grief. What a joke. Two thousand feet of copper conductors able to carry that kind of current will cost thousands.


8 posted on 05/13/2014 7:13:23 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: chrisser

I read about it yesterday. It’s operational altitude is high enough to avoid killing birds, it has transponders and lights to avoid air traffic and is wenched back down during inclement weather.

It sounds rather interesting. I wish I owned a tropical island to test it out on.

I forgot to mention, you can even mount a cell radio to provide cell service to remote locations. It would be pretty good to truck a few of these in for disaster response, power and communications in one small shipping container.


9 posted on 05/13/2014 7:13:27 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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and is wenched back down during inclement weather.

So, they hire buxom young ladies to reel them in?

10 posted on 05/13/2014 7:20:24 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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Not enough caffeine but I like the mental picture.

Faster wench, ye storm is coming.


11 posted on 05/13/2014 7:25:36 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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I'd like to know the RPM on the rotor. If it's low, a max of 1/4 Hz., then I'd be for it as that speed is slow enough for birds to miss it, especially of the leading & trailing edges have LEDs.

They are hazards to aircraft at those altitudes though.

12 posted on 05/13/2014 7:29:18 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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1000 to 2000 feet is no where near high enough to be out of bird range. However, if the rotor is low speed < 1/4 Hz. and the blade leading and trailing edges have LED’s the birds will se them & aviod them.


13 posted on 05/13/2014 7:31:00 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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I read it would operate at 4000 feet.


14 posted on 05/13/2014 7:43:16 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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They didn’t mention rotor speed but stated it had lights and a transponder for air traffic safety.


15 posted on 05/13/2014 7:45:07 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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Good grief. What a joke. Two thousand feet of copper conductors able to carry that kind of current will cost thousands.

Would vertical wire cost more than horizontal wire?

16 posted on 05/13/2014 7:52:19 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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The only way this could be effective would be to get
it up to the jet stream, other than that and the power
transfer problems, and runaways, and a few other things.
I’m sure I read about this in a 1967 Popular Mechanics...


17 posted on 05/13/2014 7:56:59 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: dangerdoc

Perfect height to catch small airplanes.


18 posted on 05/13/2014 9:32:16 AM PDT by jim_trent
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“Would vertical wire cost more than horizontal wire?”

Okay, I’m going to assume you’re serious. Wire is wire. The size of the conductor is determined by the load it must carry. If they intend to power 16 homes then they are looking at about 3000 amps based on a 200A service. They would need cabling that would weigh tons. How the craft could support that is beyond me.

If they plan to use high frequency generators then they will need inverters on the ground and those are expensive.

This idea has to be a payoff to another crony.


19 posted on 05/13/2014 9:49:14 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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I note that homes with 200A service don’t typically use that much, even at peak. You could probably cut that by 3/4, and use other sources for peaks.

Also, because cable diameter is not a factor, fat, light, and cheap Aluminum would be the preferred cable.

To carry 800A over 1000 ft. would be about 500 lbs. (I assume that there is a steel-cable tether system to keep the electrical drop cable essentially vertical).

Among the challenges will be reliable cable reeling.


20 posted on 05/13/2014 10:28:40 AM PDT by Freeping Since 2001
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