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Ukrainian army launches assault on Kramatorsk
RT ^ | 5-2-2014 | RT

Posted on 05/02/2014 3:12:06 PM PDT by tcrlaf

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41 posted on 05/02/2014 4:34:47 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“I like the army killing protestors who are able to chant slogans so hard that helicopters drop out of the sky and Ukrainians are spontaneously tortured, shot and dropped in rivers through no human action”

And, what do you propose for people who beat to death people fleeing from a burning building, while stopping the fire services from rescuing others who burned to death???


42 posted on 05/02/2014 4:34:55 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf; PaulCruz2016; mac_truck

Foreigners in the U.S.A. should become Americans and leave former foreign national identities behind.


43 posted on 05/02/2014 4:39:38 PM PDT by familyop
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And, what do you propose for people who beat to death people fleeing from a burning building, while stopping the fire services from rescuing others who burned to death???

It's worth noting that the Russian backed thugs, who were the recipients of the burning (and more of that they'll get in hell), were shooting from the rooftops, dropping stones out of the window, and, of course, were trying to claim the city itself for mother Russia through a putsch. Considering these thieves and killers are trying to take over their city, with the police doing nothing, I am in full support of the Ukrainians rising up and killing as many of these SOBs as possible. This needs to be done in Donetsk and in every city where these people are trying to bring the country under the yoke of the Kremlin.

44 posted on 05/02/2014 4:41:49 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tcrlaf

If I were the Ukrainian government, I would be kicking out all Russians, those who identify with Russia, Communists, and Party of Regions members, and making them move to Russia or Crimea.


45 posted on 05/02/2014 4:45:21 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Rashputin
Sorry, but it wasn't chanting, it was Ukrainian weapons from Ukrainian bases and armories the civilians took over. That's even been in the press releases the Kiev Kiddies put out.

Then you should probably stop referring to armed combatants backed by Russian GRU as "protestors" if you're willing to claim this now.

Of course, I understand why people supporting the Kiev coup are upset since they're scared to death some of the stuff the US sent to Syria is on the way to the Ukrainians who don't support them.

Remember that between 60 to 70 percent of Ukrainians in the East and South do not support the separatists. Say your fantasy was true and we were worried that the weapons from Syria, and not the Russian ones, got into their hands. That's not a whole lot of people to worry about, is it?

46 posted on 05/02/2014 4:45:55 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“the Russian backed thugs, who were the recipients of the burning (and more of that they’ll get in hell), were shooting from the rooftops, dropping stones out of the window”

It is also worth noting that the shooting didn’t start until the Pro-ukes/Right Sector drove the hijacked Fire truck through the street barrier as the pro-Russians “Maidan”, injuring several people.

There are MANY videos and pics of that event all over Youtube and Twitter.

Funny how you can’t seem to remember that part, isn’t it? Stroke? Or just selective memory?


47 posted on 05/02/2014 4:50:43 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Thunder90

So, Ukrainian Citizens are no longer Ukraine citizens if they disagree with the unelected government in Kiev??

That you, Uncle Joe?


48 posted on 05/02/2014 4:51:56 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: ncalburt

It’s fun to read their rhetoric with a fake Russian accent.


49 posted on 05/02/2014 4:56:21 PM PDT by familyop
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To: tcrlaf
It is also worth noting that the shooting didn’t start until the Pro-ukes/Right Sector drove the hijacked Fire truck through the street barrier as the pro-Russians “Maidan”, injuring several people.

Ignoring the stupid statement about Right Sector and imagining for a moment that your claim is true (which, most of your claims are actually false most of the time), take special note of the stupidity of the cycle you are attempting to create in the rhetoric here. If we step another foot backwards, we can say that no firetrucks were hijacked until Russian-backed thugs with weapons forced their way into government buildings to declare independence on behalf of everyone in the city. Imagine if there was a communist insurgency in Houston Texas and the police did nothing about it as they stormed the capital building. Who do you think really fired the first shot? The fire truck, or the armed combatants?

You Putinists have lost all sense of right or wrong, and you seem to think that the Ukrainians should just roll over and be subjugated by the Kremlin.

Funny how you can’t seem to remember that part, isn’t it? Stroke? Or just selective memory?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I left no facts out. It's just that you, apparently, think that an armed insurrection by a minority of people working for a foreign enemy isn't a provocation that should be met with force.

50 posted on 05/02/2014 4:58:04 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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Dmitry Medvedev Statement Via facebook:

The use of force in southeastern Ukraine is a sign of the criminal helplessness of the present rulers of Kiev.

As opposed to initiating a normal dialogue in the spirit of the Geneva accords and bringing all of the parties to the conflict to the negotiating table to discuss compromises and potential resolutions, they have launched a punitive operation.

They are using troops and helicopters. People are dying. There is bloodshed.

Responsibility for this war against their own people rests with those who are making criminal decisions in Kiev. The authorities in Ukraine’s capital should come to their senses and stop killing their own people. Otherwise, the country’s destiny could be quite grievous.”
https://www.facebook.com/Dmitry.Medvedev/posts/10152022998256851?fref=nf

The Odessa Massacre is setting the Russian-speaking world on fire (so to speak).


51 posted on 05/02/2014 5:00:11 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

They, the Ukes, have swords? Maybe they have some stuff left over from the Royal Cossacks?


52 posted on 05/02/2014 5:00:29 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: tcrlaf

FYI....Armed Right Sector militants arrived in Slavyansk by helicopter wearing right sector uniform distributed by Keiv...these are the “new National Guard types”....LOLOLOL


53 posted on 05/02/2014 5:02:31 PM PDT by caww
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You should stop acting the fool. It’s the 21st Century now. Videos of it are EVERYWHERE.

Do you not understand??
The Odessa Massacre is setting things off now, in a way some armed guys in Donetsk ever could. The average Russian is PI***D.

Now amount of shilling I going to change the facts on the ground.


54 posted on 05/02/2014 5:03:08 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
It’s the 21st Century now. Videos of it are EVERYWHERE.

Maybe Obama can be brought to see that folks will get medieval no matter what the calendar says.

55 posted on 05/02/2014 5:08:17 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: tcrlaf
You should stop acting the fool. It’s the 21st Century now. Videos of it are EVERYWHERE.

Remember, you are a Putinist having false outrage about Ukrainians responding to Russkie provocation. Naturally, I have a hard time appreciating your response.

The Odessa Massacre is setting things off now, in a way some armed guys in Donetsk ever could. The average Russian is PI***D.

The average Russian in Russia is stuck watching images of Hitler on loop interspersed with images of the Ukrainian flag. I'm not too concerned about how sheeple respond to a massacre. Though, I am perfectly aware that the Russians are looking and hoping to create this sort of violence so they can begin the invasion officially.

56 posted on 05/02/2014 5:08:21 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: caww
FYI....Armed Right Sector militants arrived in Slavyansk by helicopter wearing right sector uniform distributed by Keiv...these are the “new National Guard types”....LOLOLOL

You cretins have been saying this for ages, and, yet, you've never produced any evidence that Right Sector, which has somewhere between 2000 to 10,000 members tops (and probably an exaggerated number) out of a population of 45 million, has any one out there being used by the Ukrainian government. For the 5th, 6th, or 7th time, can you please provide any evidence for these claims from a source outside of Russian state controlled television?

57 posted on 05/02/2014 5:10:58 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Your strawmen are tiring. You just look like a stupid fool, again.

You are SO blinded by raw, bitter hate, that you refuse to see the facts in front of you. Or do you just enjoy trolling?


58 posted on 05/02/2014 5:11:37 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Rashputin

.....”it looks like the “peaceful non-coup non-mob” installed crowd in Kiev is the one murdering protesters in the streets”....

The tactics and behavior in Odessa and other areas strongly resembles when the right sector thugs hijacked the Maidan in the beginning...that’s when the violence began in full.

This also follows similar to the Muslim Brotherhoods antics in Egypt when they hijacked the protests and began killing. Always hiding behind a smokescreen of one form or another...ended up we all now know they were killing even fellow Muslim Brotherhood people so they could blame the protesters who BTW had the military with them.

There’s been enough of the military and police who have left or refused to fight...I wonder if the General would unite them all and simply remove the Kiev Gov. and take military control temporarily?

Course I doubt the US would agree to this....and the Eu has become strangely silent.


59 posted on 05/02/2014 5:13:12 PM PDT by caww
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To: Mariner
And what would you call somebody who shells a city with artillery?

It's RT.

60 posted on 05/02/2014 5:14:16 PM PDT by FreeReign
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