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To: WayneS
Would you kill someone in self defense, or would you allow yourself to be killed by an attacker?

Isn't that a different animal? War or self-defense isn't the same as deliberate killing as a punishemt.

105 posted on 05/01/2014 1:28:13 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

I think they are different.

But when I read our statement: “...punishment of the death penalty for the acts of everyone were totally paid for, punished, and condemned on the cross of Christ 2000 years ago. Jesus was punished and died for the very acts a criminal (or anyone) is put to death for”, it appeared to me that you did not think so.

I am glad to know I was wrong.


111 posted on 05/01/2014 1:36:33 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: PapaNew
deliberate killing as a punishemt

To gain understanding of your perspective, does any capital murder reach the level of earning capital punishment? Are there extremes cases, such as insanely cruel torture and death of multiple children "earn" capital punishment?

117 posted on 05/01/2014 1:41:05 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: PapaNew
self-defense isn't the same as deliberate killing as a punishemt.

IMO, killing murderers is self defense... for example,

My brother in law worked for 9 years in super max in New York. One inmate (in for murder) assaulted him and another gaurd. 3 more gaurds jumped in and were able to subdue him but blood was everywhere from the inmate and gaurds. The inmate was also HIV positive. Luckily my BiL didn't get it but was told nby the doctors.. no "relations" with his wife for 6 months, while he went in for continued tests. If he had gotten it the my BiL would be suffering your "double jeopardy" death sentence in place on the inmate. luckily he didn't but there are plenty of other gaurds and their families who do suffer that fate.

The reality is that many criminals and murderers in prison continue to murder gaurds and other inmates. Also "lesser" offenses such as rampant rape, assault, torture, etc. No matter how "super-max we try to make prison that crap still happens.

118 posted on 05/01/2014 1:41:21 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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