Posted on 04/24/2014 5:35:08 AM PDT by Kaslin
obama is going to have to face justice in this world or the next
Its one long curtain. thats for sure.
It’s obvious from his love for homosexuality that he’s been turned over to a reprobate mind, damned with no hope of salvation (see Romans 1). So it’ll be the next world that he faces eternal merciless torture, and his praetorian guard and all who agree with him will be right there beside him.
I’m not sure what all the legalese is about, but I have no issue with droning anyone caught working with the islamo crowd.
I have another, Obamacare.
Of course "domestic terrorists" will be anyone that supports the constitution as written. Said constitution is quite clear about the government killing people.
Very true
The legalese is saying that, in the case of an American citizen taking up arms with terrorists, they are still given the protections of the Constitution. Like it or not, that is the law and BHO has disregarded the Constitution, which should give every sane person pause.
My only issue with Judge Napolitano's argument is this:
In a capital murder case, for example, the defendant must not only be found guilty by a jury, but he also must truly be guilty.
This is a non-sequitor and impossible to substantiate. If we knew a person to be 'truly' guilty, then no jury would be necessary. A jury analyzes the evidence as presented and makes a decision based upon the facts and their merit. The premise contradicts the mechanics as we cannot view the actions as if we were on the scene at the time.
My vote is for the here and now
It is ok for Obama to be judge, jury and executioner and assassinate US citizens by remote control. But whatever you do don’t waterboad terrorists because that would be wrong.
$5 says the “rationale” will say it is not only OK to kill American citizens overseas without due process (or with what they’ve concocted as a substitute for it) ... it will say it is OK anywhere - including within the US. That’s probably what they really don’t want revealed, that they’ve given themselves permission to kill anyone, anywhere, anytime.
Either way...that man is going to rue the day he ever decided to listen to Frank M. Davis and all of the ilk he surrounded himself with over the years.
God literally laughs at people like him.
In my simple mind, if someone is caught red handed working with the islamofacists, and they are not a mole, then it’s fire for effect.
Is this the issue?
“...use unmanned aerial drones in foreign lands to kill people — including Americans ...a targeted killing of a victim by someone in the executive branch without due process.”
First of all, whether the drone is manned or unmanned is not the issue. For some people it bears a very strong emotional factor, but that is all. Tomahawk cruise missiles, laser guided 500 lb bombs, 155mm artillery shells and 81 mm mortar rounds are all “unmanned aerial” instruments of death.
The issue is two fold: firstly, “can enemy combatants be killed in foreign lands”, and secondly, must Americans who are fighting on the side of the enemy first be read their Miranda rights, have a properly documented chain(s) of evidence, tried and convicted by jury of their peers and sentenced by a judge (all elements of ‘due process’) before they can be engaged as a target?
I have zero respect for Obama. However, in this case I believe that Judge Napolitiano is barking up the wrong tree.
A more pertinent question is “can Americans suspected or even convicted of breaking one of the innumerable rules issued by the various administrative departments, but not found guilty by due process of any CRIME punishable by death, be engaged by heavily armed SWAT teams, snipers, armored vehicles, etc?”
Are the members of the Executive branch who order such domestic attacks guilty? Are the team members who carry out such attacks also guilty?
If the issue has not already been addressed much earlier in our history, run the question by the Supreme Court, “is an American citizen fighting for the enemy a legitimate target, trial or no trial?”
While you’re at it, ask the Supremes if deadly force legally can be applied to citizens in the USA when the death penalty has not been judicially decreed?
True enought. With terrorists on the battlefield, they wear no uniform and are thus not protected by the Geneva Conventions. Further, it is impossible to distinguish a US citizen when they look like all of the other bad guys, complete with automatic weaponry pointed at you. The grey area is UAV aerial assault. Were the Congress to have declared war on Afghanistan, then there would not be any issue.
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Which is why the leftists are intent on loading the courts with like-minded judges, so they can claim "due process" in their tyranny.
And that my friend is the basis for governmental tyranny, “he who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security” Franklin
I’ve always believed that ANY of our American Presidents, in their role as our Commander in Chief, can and should have the power to slay the blood enemies of this country. If Islamic radical baby killers and woman whippers and legal rapists in foreign lands do not fit that bill then no one does which means our country is defenseless against these kind of killers.
THIS IS WHAT WE ELECT A PRESIDENT FOR, to make these kind of decisions. As much as I loath Obama and his cabal of associates, I agree with this drone program killing killers over seas.
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