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To: South40
I don't know who Henry is, but he needs to consult the OED on the definition of "effective."

April 4,2014:

"U.S. federal agents have uncovered two drug-smuggling tunnels underneath the U.S.-Mexico border, both surfacing in San Diego-area warehouses and equipped with rail systems for moving contraband, officials said on Friday.

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Federal law enforcement officials said the first tunnel, which connects a warehouse in Tijuana, Mexico, with one in an industrial park in the border community of Otay Mesa, is about 600 yards long and is furnished with lighting, a crude rail system and wooden trusses.

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The second tunnel was even more sophisticated, built with a multi-tiered electric rail system and an array of ventilation equipment.

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The two tunnels are the sixth and seventh cross-border passageways discovered in the San Diego area in less than four years, according to the task force.

Since 2006, federal authorities have detected at least 80 cross-border smuggling tunnels, most of them in California and Arizona,"


47 posted on 04/24/2014 1:34:21 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; South40
I don't know who Henry is, but he needs to consult the OED on the definition of "effective."

Well, do you know who Former US Congressmen and POTUS Candidate Duncan Hunter is?

Here is what he had to say about the proven effectiveness of border fences both here and in Israel:

Duncan Hunter: Well, I think I’ve learned one thing and that’s that fences work and the walls work and separations work and what they basically afford to any nation is the delay of entry. In fact, a number of people who have looked at the border fence, who have now supported me on the border fence in the US, have …observed the fences in Israel and their effectiveness.

So I think that the fence generally in the Israel fence program has been an effective one from a security standpoint and I think in the US the border fence in the US is no longer an immigration issue primarily; it’s a security issue.

You have to know who’s coming into this country and what they’re bringing with them. The fences, the double fence in San Diego that I led the effort on and funded over the last ten years or so, have been very effective. It’s knocked back the smuggling of people and narcotics by more than 90%, stopped all the drive-through drug people, and would be a hindrance to terrorists should they decide to come across a land border between the US and Mexico and to California.

49 posted on 04/24/2014 1:40:59 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; South40
I don't know who Henry is, but he needs to consult the OED on the definition of "effective."

Here is another article describing the effectiveness and success of the Israeli fence in stopping suicide bombers:

During the 34 months from the beginning of the violence in September 2000 until the construction of the first continuous segment of the security fence at the end of July 2003, Samaria-based terrorists carried out 73 attacks in which 293 Israelis were killed and 1950 wounded. In the 11 months between the erection of the first segment at the beginning of August 2003 and the end of June 2004, only three attacks were successful, and all three occurred in the first half of 2003.

Since construction of the fence began, the number of attacks has declined by more than 90%. The number of Israelis murdered and wounded has decreased by more than 70% and 85%, respectively, after erection of the fence.

Even the Palestinian terrorists have addmitted the fence is a deterrent. On November 11, 2006, Islamic Jihad leader Abdallah Ramadan Shalah said on Al-Manar TV the terrorist organizations had every intention of continuing suicide bombing attacks, but that their timing and the possibility of implementing them from the West Bank depended on other factors. “For example,” he said, “there is the separation fence, which is an obstacle to the resistance, and if it were not there the situation would be entirely different.”


50 posted on 04/24/2014 1:45:23 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I don't know who Henry is,

Then you should have read the article and you would. He is assistant chief of the Border Patrol's San Diego sector. And he knows far more about fencing and its effectiveness than you or I. He did not say fences would stop tunnels; no sane person would. What he did say was that the fences are effective...and they are.

Without fences criminals are free to walk, run or drive right over the border. And that is what we have now. I'm sure those opposed to such measures have their reasoning, whatever they may be. Myself, I would rather we spend the money on fencing instead of feeding, housing and educating the ILLEGAL hordes who are allowed to enter our country because we don't have them.

51 posted on 04/24/2014 1:49:11 AM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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