Posted on 04/21/2014 12:06:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
My take on the Bundy deal is that I don’t care if he was right or wrong,
the fedgov reaction was absolutely wrong, so he and the Patriots were right to stand up to them.
Well, this guy started out smart - he really did - then he swerved into a ditch. This is not at all like the issue of discrimminating against blacks or gays on one’s own property. Nope, sorry, that ain’t gonna fly.
But it is about the question of just WTF is the Fed doing owning and ruling one eighth of the country, and allowing Harry Reid to cut deals on that land, in the first place.
Mr. Bundy asked the government why he had to pay to graze his cattle if the drug traffickers and human traffickers can use the same federal property with immunity and at no charge. Good question!
This was posted elsewhere on FR, it is a good summation of why Bundy is not the clown liberals try to make him out to be. This was posted in the comments section of the link below.
http://lasvegassun.com/news/2014/apr/20/world-through-militia-eyes/
Anyone confused about the reason the Bundy family and friends are taking the stand they are, below is a letter from Bundy’s neighbor. This should shed light on the CRAP the liberal marxist media is spewing out.
“There have been a lot of people criticizing Clive Bundy because he did not pay his grazing fees for 20 years. The public is also probably wondering why so many other cowboys are supporting Mr. Bundy even though they paid their fees and Clive did not. What you people probably do not realize is that on every ranchers grazing permit it says the following: You are authorized to make grazing use of the lands, under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Land Management and covered by this grazing permit, upon your acceptance of the terms and conditions of this grazing permit and payment of grazing fees when due. The mandatory terms and conditions go on to list the allotment, the number and kind of livestock to be grazed, when the permit begins and ends, the number of active or suspended AUMs (animal units per month), etc.
The terms and conditions also list specific requirements such as where salt or mineral supplements can be located, maximum allowable use of forage levels (40% of annual growth), etc., and include a lot more stringent policies that must be adhered to. Every rancher must sign this contract agreeing to abide by the TERMS AND CONDITIONS before he or she can make payment. In the early 90s, the BLM went on a frenzy and drastically cut almost every ranchers permit because of this desert tortoise issue, even though all of us ranchers knew that cow and desert tortoise had co-existed for a hundred+ years. As an example, a family friend had his permit cut by 90%. For those of you who are non-ranchers, that would be equated to getting your paycheck cut 90%. In 1976 there were approximately 52 ranching permittees in this area of Nevada. Presently, there are 3.
Most of these people lost their livelihoods because of the actions of the BLM. Clive Bundy was one of these people who received extremely unfair and unreasonable TERMS AND CONDITIONS. Keep in mind that Mr. Bundy was required to sign this contract before he was allowed to pay. Had Clive signed on the dotted line, he would have, in essence, signed his very livelihood away. And so Mr. Bundy took a stand, not only for himself, but for all of us. He refused to be destroyed by a tyrannical federal entity and to have his American liberties and freedoms taken away.
Also keep in mind that all ranchers financially paid dearly for the forage rights those permits allow not rights to the land, but rights to use the forage that grows on that land. Many of these AUMS are water based, meaning that the rancher also has a vested right (state owned, not federal) to the waters that adjoin the lands and allow the livestock to drink. These water rights were also purchased at a great price. If a rancher cannot show beneficial use of the water (he must have the appropriate number of livestock that drinks and uses that water), then he loses that water right. Usually water rights and forage rights go hand in hand.
Contrary to what the BLM is telling you, they NEVER compensate a rancher for the AUMs they take away. Most times, they tell ranchers that their AUMS are suspended, but not removed. Unfortunately, my family has thousands of suspended AUMs that will probably never be returned. And so, even though these ranchers throughout the course of a hundred years invested thousands(and perhaps millions) of dollars and sacrificed along the way to obtain these rights through purchase from others, at a whim the government can take everything away with the stroke of a pen. This is the very thing that Clive Bundy single handedly took a stand against. Thank you, Clive, from a rancher who considers you a hero”.
Matt Bruenig
You took the words right out of my mouth, Clown Clown??!!!! Does this amuse this jack off matt??? Missing the big picture jerk wad. It all comes down to more taxes and when do we say enough!!! Clown. This guy is a clown in an asshole suit.
Wow ... that looks like a mush-faced metro-boy ... I doubt he could lift a 40lb bag of salt.
World through militia eyes: Domestic terrorists? Heroes? Who’re the armed men who invaded Nevada?http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3146716/posts
Idiot author assuming an obtuse intellect, to promulgate what?
Moronic and meandering thinking.
Pot holes have more depth....
I’ll loan you in of my patented “Clue by Four”.
Wack him good...
Question Authority
that’s what this is all about!
There's nothing complicated about it. The federal gov is out of control, and now that it might be too late to turn things around, people are finally fed up.
It’s Pat!
In college, the author was a member of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS). That should explain a lot.
The arrogance is strong with this one.
Makes it hard to turn the other cheek...
If you can, please post this on Salon. I don’t know if you have to create an account or want to. But on the heels of Salon “trying” to be objective or libertarian, it would be good for their audience to see. (Some of them anyway).
what’s good for the goose is good for the gander...so lets also supend this person right to use public things..like the internet, roads, water, air.
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